Trident Fuel

Post by **DaveB** » 20 Jan 2007, 12:55

Hi Guy's,

I thought I'd take my old Tri3 ZO for a spin last night LHR-EDDM. FOB was reported by FlyNET as 4355kg so I lobbed 5124kg in for the trip. Takeoff seemed very sluggish, and I mean very sluggish but I managed to get off the ground (look for tyre marks on the boundary fence!).

I let it go on AP as normal but found myself in a stall situation before reaching the coast so off came the AP.. a handful of nose down and she picked up her rather heavy skirt and continued. AP engaged and on passing FL100, autothrottles to 320kts. I kept a close eye on the climb and watched the speed decay to around 225 before finally reaching FL320. Having checked the usual.. is my gear still down, flaps down, spoilers up, I finally checked my fuel load and found I had well over 15t onboard :shock: There is really no way I could have read 4355kg FOB as being anything else and try as I might, I couldn't see how I'd managed to load over 10t extra. As it happened.. the flight was doomed as my new Munich scenery had obliterated the old airport and refused to show!! I heard 'Decide' and thought it better not to land in a field (even though the airport was still showing in FSNav) so cancelled the flight.

Having run the flight this morning.. I found todays FOB reading was 9478kg :shock: No then.. why for did it say 4355kg last night and 9478kg this morning?? :think: Odd.. very odd and I have absolutely no explanation. 4355kg sounds about what I left in it last time I flew ZO and I really can't see anyone in their right mind leaving 9478kg in an aircraft.. not a Trident anyway. I'll have a look and see if anyone DID take her out after my last flight but regardless.. I still can't explain the FOB figure over a few hours.

One to keep an eye on me thinks

Edit I've looked at the FlyNET log for ZO and found her last flight was indeed my last flight in her. Fuel remaining at LHR was 4355kg.. the same figure I was offered last night/early this morning so.. what it as actually done is remembered what I entered last night (5124kg) and offered my the sum total.. 9478kg this morning. :shock: This goes a long way to proving that I didn't have finger trouble last night but still doesn't explain why it fuelled me to the gunnels. A hiccup me thinks

Of course.. another way to look at it is fuel up then bug out of your flight. The next time you go back.. you may well have what you previously fuelled to so the flight will cost you nowt!

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Chris Trott · Post by **Chris Trott** » 20 Jan 2007, 15:14

Actually, the fuel will stay (because it was recorded) but you will be charged at the end of the flight because it only does the fuel calculation for charge based off the last submitted flight log and the record for how much fuel was aboard when you started the flight. I've had a couple times when I had to bail out for one reason or another and I would see the same thing you did (added fuel was still there) but I still got charged the appropriate amount when I finished the flight.

Post by **DaveB** » 20 Jan 2007, 17:08

Hi Mr Christopher

Incorrect I'm afraid. Check my logbook

Despite John's post above re fuelling and client 6.5b.. it is the same as was in standard mode despite looking just a little different.. or at least the end result is the same. The figure below displays fuel remaining from the aircrafts previous outing and as he says, the box above reads zero.. here you add what extra you need (the bit you will be charged for).

What isn't explained is how the hell I ended up with over 15.5t (by the time I looked which was well into the flight). The aircraft had 4355kg remaining from my flight to Madrid. I added 5124kg (in the upper box) for the run to Munich. The sum total of the two does not equate to over 15t!
As explained in my first post.. I ended up having to bug out due to the fact that Wolfgangs Munich had sat on top of the default scenery but for whatever reason, was not displaying. All I saw on approach was a road that runs through the default airport!! Fearing a 'landed at incorrect destination' (and why not as there was in effect no airport).. I bugged out, not a happy situation at that time of the morning :roll:

This morning, I opened flightsim and setup again then opened the client and FOB showed 9478kg!! OK.. 9478 equates to 5124 (my added fuel from the bugged out flight) plus the 4355kg already onboard after the Madrid flight but.. check my logbook (flight 742) and you will see a zero charge for fuel. I had already done what John has since instructed (it IS obvious really!) and left the upper window at '0' and flew the flight having taken no fuel onboard. I've done this flight a number of times and you just don't make over v$10m!!

I'll put it down to a glich (or should that be glitch??) as I can't explain why I started the original flight with well over 15t when clearly, FlyNET knew I'd loaded with 9478kg.. the figure still oboard when I reflew the flight today

Oddly enough, I normally check what's been loaded as soon as I reopen the sim but didn't on this occassion :tuttut:

ATB

DaveB :tab: