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Post by Nigel H-J »

Not sure whether I should put this here or in the payware section.

Have FTX England Scotland and Wales but what I have found is tht when flying at 20,000ft or more then descending to around 3-4000ft the scenery is rather.........flatish!!! :doh: the houses have not materialised though the trees have and some of the hills have been flattened but when I press 'refresh scenery' they all come back. If I wait long enough they do gradually appear but does not look right whilst waiting so kind of hurry things up by refreshing scenery.

Is there any way round this or would my settings be a tad too high and need to be lowered slightly?

Specs given below: just in case you need to know. Only here for about an hour as at library so hopefully be back Monday.

HP i3 processor

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Post by Airspeed »

Hi Nigel :hello:
Have you posted this on the ORBX forum? Their admin should have an answer for you.
I have noticed a couple of unhappy users, who say that the tree detail is inaccurate; but that's no different to my early complaints about their work being representative of the area rather than photoreal. Upside of that is that you are allowed to amend scenic objects yourself.

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Post by emfrat »

At least they have backed off from their original claims - they now offer "A beautiful place to fly in". (which covers a multitude of sins)
I have their FTX scenery for Australia installed - it is good scenery, but some basic items like accurate roads and rail lines would have made it a lot better.
The VOZ scenery in my FS9 setup is better - my own little township is not there, but the exact location is easily found, using the roads, and a very distinctive road/rail crossing.
However it also suffers from an excess of trees.
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Hi Mike :hello:
When I bought their Australian package, I wrote suggesting that they could face legal action over the words on their own packaging: "Made from real aerial photos......." on the front, and "VIRTUAL AUSTRALIA" and "IT'S LIKE BEING THERE" on the back, spring to mind.
Their initial response was "Where did you see this?" :-O followed by "If that's how you interpreted it......" :dunno:
There certainly have been better detailed sceneries in the past. FS98 OZPACK had Luna Park, MCG, The Shrine of Remembrance, Southland shopping centre, and the petrochemical complex at Altona, plus the aircraft at the Moorabbin Air Museum. I don't think ANY of these appear in ORBX; they did put an American style sports stadium somewhere near the MCG, but overall, as I've said before, the add-on airports are the saving grace. Oh, one last whinge - the lighthouse and terrain on Gabo Island :rant:

The various packs I bought from ES LOOK good, anyone know if they're realistic?

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Im still waiting on a reply regarding the differences in the 3x areas...
http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/ ... -scotland/

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That link is password protected Chris :)

Mike.. I've never been to the Scillies, Alderney or Guernsey but they certainly look realistic. While you may not see a red brick house where there should be one.. the buildings for these areas are, AFAIK, custom made for the scenery as are the many landmark buildings of which there are many. This is especially true for Shawbury Fields which is used by the RAF in their helicopter sim.

It may be better to compare the ES sceneries with the OZ Packs you mentioned rather than ORBX generic areas ;)

Nigel.. what are you flying when you're up at FL200 then descend to 3 or 4000ft? It sounds like your system is having a hard time keeping up. The i3 cpu's.. while undoubtedly high-tech when compared to my E8400.. are at the bottom end of the cpu chain from intel. As far as I can see, you really need an i5 or higher and a shed load of ram to make FSX hustle along to anything like it's full potential. I fear your i3 and 4gig is struggling :worried: In my case.. the 560Ti dragged the rest of my system out of the mire to enable me to run FSX. I think the same situation applies to your setup mate.

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DaveB wrote:.....
Mike.. I've never been to the Scillies, Alderney or Guernsey but they certainly look realistic. While you may not see a red brick house where there should be one.. the buildings for these areas are, AFAIK, custom made for the scenery as are the many landmark buildings of which there are many. This is especially true for Shawbury Fields which is used by the RAF in their helicopter sim.
It may be better to compare the ES sceneries with the OZ Packs you mentioned rather than ORBX generic areas ;)
No can do Mr B!
OZPACK was strictly Australian scenery, and though beautiful for its day, as you know, FS98 is not a touch on FSX.

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:lol: :lol:

Well, on my system.. Shawbury Fields doesn't last too long.. about the length of the single if I go too close to the more built up areas courtesy of OOM rearing it's ugly head :|

What I meant about the ES scenery is like the OZPACK stuff of old.. it's area specific rather than generic. You can't put Guernsey, Alderney, The Scillies, Shawbury or the IoM anywhere other than those locations :lol: You can't really compare this sort of stuff to the ORBX areas which are in essence.. generic with tweaked tiles around their airports. Better in many ways than the default FSX but still of that ilk. The only time 'photo' anything can be used with it is for their airports.. certainly not for their generic scenery areas.

By comparison.. the ES sceneries are designed to work with GenX.. itself a photo scenery in the true sense of the word so what you see in the sim is far more accurate. Where no photo scenery (GenX) exists.. the CI and Scillies.. photo ground tiles were used so what you see is how it is :) ORBX areas are FSX with different clothes on.. NOT photo scenery.. despite their early claims as you so rightly pointed out ;)
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Re: Scenery

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Yeah sorry DB forgot it would be for those who have accounts on their forums...
For those who don't want to look I have Copy and Pasted my post and the reply below;
Hi, this isn't really a support question but just more a query regarding the content difference between the 3 UK FTX's.
In Scotland there is Knockhill race circuit, England has quite a few race circuits however none are depicted other than Snetterton...
In Wales and Scotland there are a few disused airfields that are included however the England scenery again is lacking...
Is there any plans to bring the England scenery into line with the others? Especially regarding the disused airfields as they are a big VFR reference/Nav aid...
Hi,
This is down to Orbx to decide if/when its added to a patch
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Hi Dave

I think you may very well be correct, I have been flying the ummm!! cough! (Ben not about is he)?
Capt Sim 737-200 :hide: going to try another a/c that is more frame friendly tomorrow and will let you know. Silly me, should have thought of that before!! :doh:

Thanks Mike but unfortunately not able to access ORBX Forum from here as site is blocked so have no way of registering.

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