Panorama Tonight BBC1............

Post by **Trev Clark** » 04 Jun 2007, 08:36

An 'expose' on the reasons (possibly

) behind the Nimrod R1 disaster, last year.

PanoramaMonday 04 June
8:30pm - 9:00pm
BBC1
On a Wing and a Prayer
Shelley Jofre investigates whether Britain's single biggest loss of military life in over two decades could have been avoided, and reveals a series of potentially-catastrophic faults with the RAF's ageing fleet of spyplanes.
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AndyG · Post by **AndyG** » 04 Jun 2007, 09:36

I tend not to bother watching these Panorama 'exposes' any more, full of bad reporting and bad science. :sad:

AndyG

Quixoticish · Post by **Quixoticish** » 04 Jun 2007, 10:09

If you're referring to the crash in September last year it wasn't an R1, it was an MR2 (XV230). The media just love to refer to all Nimrods as "spyplanes" to make it sound as though they are over there carrying out some devious cold-war style mission in an effort to drum up anti-war sentiment.

Quixoticish · Post by **Quixoticish** » 04 Jun 2007, 10:49

On reflection that sounded rather scathing . Not that I'm sceptical about modern media or anything.

Nigel H-J · Post by **Nigel H-J** » 04 Jun 2007, 11:01

Shelley Jofre investigates whether Britain's single biggest loss of military life in over two decades could have been avoided

Hindsight is such a wonderful thing after any tragedy so who will they put the blame on for this sad loss of life I wonder? :think:

Will it be the groundcrew who were responsible for the serviceability of the aircraft or the flight crew for missing something on a pre-flight inspection or even........wait for it....... the government?

Either way, all it is going to do is bring back some very sad memories and I for one will not watch it.

AndyG · Post by **AndyG** » 04 Jun 2007, 11:01

Chris H wrote:Not that I'm sceptical about modern media or anything.

That's just me then!! :dance:

AndyG

petermcleland · Post by **petermcleland** » 04 Jun 2007, 11:23

Nigel H-J wrote: Hindsight is such a wonderful thing after any tragedy so who will they put the blame on for this sad loss of life I wonder? :think:

Will it be the groundcrew who were responsible for the serviceability of the aircraft or the flight crew for missing something on a pre-flight inspection or even........wait for it....... the government?

Nigel,

You forgot Global Warming

I stopped watching Panorama years ago...A real rubbish programme :think:

Nigel H-J · Post by **Nigel H-J** » 04 Jun 2007, 11:43

Silly me!!! Should have remembered that Peter!!

Post by **Trev Clark** » 04 Jun 2007, 22:28

Sorry Tonks, I didn't and nobody else would have watched because they all say it is rubbish. I have not seen in years, but within the realms of modern TV it was OK. Main problem is fuel leaks, caused by (or irritated by) air to air refuelling, which was not on the original design sheet. Also a lot more hot to cold operations than ever anticipated for a sub hunter. Add to that age and lack of spares......familiar story :sad: :sad:

Sl4yer · Post by **Sl4yer** » 04 Jun 2007, 23:31

calypsos wrote:Add to that age and lack of spares......familiar story :sad: :sad:

Not to mention resources - that's the root cause, but it was only briefly touched on.

Typical TV aviation journalism: "This is the new version [MRA4] undergoing flight test". Then show an airshow clip of XV248, a MR2!

Tonks, you can see it on the Panorama web site:

Panorama

James