A sad day for Manchester

Jetset · Post by **Jetset** » 01 Jun 2007, 06:49

As of the 6th June and the progress of Magnetic Variation, Manchester's runways which I have grown up as 24/06 with will be changed to 23/05. A very sad day!

cstorey · Post by **cstorey** » 01 Jun 2007, 09:00

It's these wandering poles that people get so excited about

AndyG · Post by **AndyG** » 01 Jun 2007, 09:12

For a moment I thought this might be a thread about Ranieri taking over at City!!

AndyG

VEGAS · Post by **VEGAS** » 01 Jun 2007, 09:49

Thats tragic. I only know them by 24/06 as well. Once introduced, I wonder how many regular pilots will get it wrong during the first few weeks.. :think:

Chris Trott · Post by **Chris Trott** » 01 Jun 2007, 11:37

If our experience over here is any indication, every single one, including all of the controllers will misstep at least a half-dozen times before getting it right consistently.

When they changed the runways at Washington National, it was a nightmare for weeks because of pilots and controllers getting runways mixed up.

airboatr · Post by **airboatr** » 01 Jun 2007, 14:15

as long as the runway available is 24/7 operational
(careful how you word that over the radio...)
:roll:

why change runway nubering anyway?
seams silly to me

Post by **Garry Russell** » 01 Jun 2007, 14:25

These things happen now and then.

Heathrow used to be 28/10

Don't remember it causeing too much trouble if any in the past especially as pilots are suppose to be constantly checking.

Garry

Paul K · Post by **Paul K** » 01 Jun 2007, 15:38

cstorey wrote:It's these wandering poles that people get so excited about

Lithuanians too...they're everywhere!

Post by **Garry Russell** » 01 Jun 2007, 15:42

Garry

Chris Trott · Post by **Chris Trott** » 01 Jun 2007, 16:16

airboatr wrote:as long as the runway available is 24/7 operational
(careful how you word that over the radio...)
:roll:

why change runway nubering anyway?
seams silly to me

Because the runway number is the runway's magnetic heading rounded to the closest 10 degrees. This is to allow pilots flying on visual flight rules to have a general reference to what heading the runway will be on so that they can properly identify the runway markings and ensure that the markings (i.e. 28) matches up with their current heading (between 275 and 284) so that they're absolutely sure they're landing on the right runway. If the runway's heading is 280 and they number it 270, you're going to cause issues becuase the pilots can't confirm that they're landing on the right runway.