Classic British Flight Sim

You're far too pedantic, Garry!

Looking at it as a purist, then fair enough, what's true to a particular Aircraft is true. But the way I see it, it's a standard VC10 (never mind the exact version) and it's nice to have a reminder of what used to wear the national flag colours.

But hey, yes why not B-Cal? No other type at present is in that scheme. (is it?)

DB is right, it's very much the Sultan's aeroplane & has to be kept that way.
He apparently loved his VC10 dearly and gave it to Brooklands because he couldn't bare to have it broken up. Even flying in on the delivery flight to hand it over himself if I'm remembering the story right.
Kept it going a good few years longer than he ought to have as well.
I wouldn't want to see that one painted any other colours.

I knew about the old white Vulcan that Cosford chopped, but didn't know there was an early Victor as well. Oh dear, it gets worse. :huf:

Dan, I just want to have a look, so probably not the reason you may be hoping.

DM

Chris :huf:

The point though of a museum is to portray history accurately

There are a lot of differences between a Standard VC 10 sold to other airlines and the BOAC Standard.

At least as it stands A40-AB in a genuine livery. It may also be a stipulation of the donation that it remains as such.


People go to museums to learn about history....so it needs to be accurate

Garry

I think they should paint them up as accurate as possible too.
They should think about the unfortunate clever clogs minority who know about these things. It makes us upset.
People do use these repainted aeroplanes as a reference & they're too often bloody wrong!

Did I read right that Cosford are planning to paint their Comet in Air France livery?
Surely not. Is that for BA's benefit?
That would be a good case in point. It did fly with Air France, but it would have had square windows back then, not the modified rounded ones that it had in later life when it wore military markings.
It should only ever be painted in a scheme that fits it properly.

I'll get me anorak.

DM

Yo Dave

The Cosford Comet is not going into AFR as far as I know..that's a rumour.

Someone put out it couldn't go in RAF as it never was.....but it did serve in Brit Mil colours for many years.

If Cosford want to be RAF then AFR won't fit.

It shouldn't be in BOAC...it was never like that and having painted it it should have been done properly. As it stands it is at best an Artists impression.

I do have a bone of contention about incorrect liveries

G-AVFB and G-ALWF were wrong at first but have been progressively corrected....the details matter.

The Britannia at Cosford is not right either

When G-APDB was handed over it was said at the time to be on a 99 year loan from Dan Air and the only condition was it remained in Dan Air livery. Obviously something changed there after DA's demise.


As to chopping I still have never got over Hendon scrapping the Beverly in the manner they did :curse:


Garry

That was BA Red Tail Nigel

Sorry. Thanks Dave.

DM (et-al)..

I've been in touch with the Cosford VC10 Team Leader and it appears the flightdeck is 99% complete. Tatty.. very tatty but all there bar about 4 instruments off the engineers panel. The interior is totally stripped as this was being used by the RAF to teach the effects of metal corrosion :shock: Ironic??? Word is.. had the aircraft been complete, the decision to scrap may well have been different.
I suppose if you look at it in a different way, the airframe did good work.. even in retirement, by serving Queen and country and wasn't cut up out of spite

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Nice thought Dave

But the Trident one was complete..........unique and even more cut up. :think:

Perhaps though that was a different group deciding it's fate :sad:

Garry

MALTBY D wrote:Dan, I just want to have a look, so probably not the reason you may be hoping.

Me? ... No... I haven't got the faintest idea of what you're talking about.
I just wondered why you where interested in a VC10 cockpit...?
Almost nearby...? ... and of a civilian...? ...... Nothing on my mind....... seriously ....

Now be honest Dan.. if the VC10 had a VC :shock: would you use it??

ATB

DaveB :tab: