Classic British Flight Sim

robcarrich wrote:Had the aircraft reached 90% finished where are the pictures, or indeed any evidence, of its existence?

I saw it on the TV programme about it, can't remember if it was about the "Speed Machines" episode Speed of Sound or "planes that never flew" but they interviewed ex-Miles employees and Eric Brown who was down to fly it and he certainly had a cockpit fitting.

And if you add the skin and the wings which were elsewhere this could be described as 90% complete, there wasn't much to add if the engines, cockpit and flight controls are in already.

That looks like a wooden mock up??

Possibly, it's the only still I could find but I know I remember seeing something on the TV. And Eric Brown talking about how complete it was before getting a phone call to say it was shut down. And an Ex-Miles designer about the cancellation after they had been over to the US to "share" information, which ended up a one-way only sharing experience.

Garry Russell wrote:That looks like a wooden mock up??

That sure is,
And that's all you'll find, other than more shots of wooden parts!
Eric Brown was certainly in the frame for first shot.( maybe Miles conned him as well )
The first planned aircraft was to be a subsonic machine so the supersonic version must have been years away!
This, I would think, did not fit well into the austere post war political climate.
So we gave away what we had! ( Not much as far as I can tell )
It would have been such a beautiful aeroplane, would it not!

Pigs_In_Space wrote: I would have a stab at modelling these things myself, but my one attempt at GMax ended in spectacular failure.

In that case, you are eminently qualified to model most of Britain's aviation output from the fifties and sixties.

You could the V.1000/VC 7

Get it 70 percent done then abandon it

DaveG wrote:Hi MB and welcome

I've got this sitting on my hard-drive which gets tinkered with occasionally



Whether it'll ever get finished & released is unlikely though

I wondered if you'd ever picked that one up!

I occasionally fire up FS Design Studio and try again to get up the learning curve; I've got an "adopted/orphaned" Meteor from one of the main sites that I'm tweaking, and if that works I will try to supply some of the more exotic versions. And the Miles M52 is very much on my to do list, on the basis that there are no majorly complicated shapes to model - who knows, one day I may actually get on with making it!!

I'm surprised nobody (*cough* Itosan - but I guess health issues have finally forced this maestro's retirement) has ever picked up the SR.53 (which certainly flew) - so it's on my list, along with the SR.177, but they are a way off, if indeed I ever do look at them. Itosan's Avro 730 is of the early design proposal, so there is still scope for the 'definitive' version to be modelled.

I occasionally prod Steve Beeny to see if I can persuade him to look at extending his lovely Seahawk series to give us a P1052, although I know the P1081 is probably a non-runner because it would necessitate a major rebuild; still, the thought of the 1052 in Suez stripes is fairly mouthwatering - and he hasn't said a definitive "no" yet, so I live in hope!

The Bristol 188 is available over on Flightsim; there is a thread at the Outhouse about porting this to FSX, and it actually looks nicer in that sim than FS9, although would still benefit from an improved paint job. And of course the inimitable JBK has given us a very nice Brabazon, which most definitely classes as exotica!!