Someof us are blessed with expertese in different areas mate. I don't think there are many here who could pilot a helicopter at close quarters ;-)
Buying bits or buying a system. The same goes, reputable retailers or websites. Its not as if (if it was to go tits up) that you'd be taking the bits out to turn into something else. You need something that will work, and do so for a while, whether you build it from bits or buy it as a package, same goes. ;-)
Any of these Q6600 any good?
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Re: Any of these Q6600 any good?
Tony,
If your budget will stretch to £700 then this would be a great system for FSX
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... 2%20System
Jim
If your budget will stretch to £700 then this would be a great system for FSX
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... 2%20System
Jim
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Re: Any of these Q6600 any good?
I know that if you use the Ebay Buy it now your covered under the 7 day return distance selling regs... But i know you can get reptuble stuff off ebay, my next door nabiour does it... Personnally id rather go to a retuble seller, Dabs, Overclockers ect and be covered more by law...
Re: Any of these Q6600 any good?
Tony,
Re overclocking the Q6600 - I have mine clocked to 3.24Ghz using the stock cooler. I've got (a now fairly elderly) Gigabyte P35-DS3L motherboard which supports overclocking the easy way. 3.24Ghz is stable with no issues experienced running the processor at that speed and for fairly lengthy periods of time (FSX does that!).
As for buying from a reputable supplier - I agree that this is the least risk way of getting what you want, albeit for a bit more cash; the first choice option on ebay looks to have decent components although the supplier is a bit coy on the makes of the HDD and PSU but they nonetheless appear to have good specs.
Generally these days the most often heard advice is to go for more cores (quad) even if those cores run at lower clock speed than many duals. For FSX though the basic advice is to go for raw speed but then you lose out on the advantages of quad cores when using products such as Tileproxy. Complicated eh! Personally - if I was building from scratch now I would go for the Q6600, faster memory (1066Mhz stuff) and a good motherboard. With your current PC you may only need the mb, processor, memory and PSU (I can't remember what vid card you've got but if 8800 or better then you could keep that. And if you can fit it all in your current case (with sufficient space for cooling) then better still.
I've had a quick trawl through overclockers.co.uk and £374.86 (including VAT) will get you a Q6600, an ASUS P45 MB, 4Gb of 1066 (OCZ) RAM and a 700W modular PSU (again OCZ). If you can reuse your other components then you'll have a capable system for not much money (in the great scheme of things).
Regards,
Chris
Regards,
Chris
Re overclocking the Q6600 - I have mine clocked to 3.24Ghz using the stock cooler. I've got (a now fairly elderly) Gigabyte P35-DS3L motherboard which supports overclocking the easy way. 3.24Ghz is stable with no issues experienced running the processor at that speed and for fairly lengthy periods of time (FSX does that!).
As for buying from a reputable supplier - I agree that this is the least risk way of getting what you want, albeit for a bit more cash; the first choice option on ebay looks to have decent components although the supplier is a bit coy on the makes of the HDD and PSU but they nonetheless appear to have good specs.
Generally these days the most often heard advice is to go for more cores (quad) even if those cores run at lower clock speed than many duals. For FSX though the basic advice is to go for raw speed but then you lose out on the advantages of quad cores when using products such as Tileproxy. Complicated eh! Personally - if I was building from scratch now I would go for the Q6600, faster memory (1066Mhz stuff) and a good motherboard. With your current PC you may only need the mb, processor, memory and PSU (I can't remember what vid card you've got but if 8800 or better then you could keep that. And if you can fit it all in your current case (with sufficient space for cooling) then better still.
I've had a quick trawl through overclockers.co.uk and £374.86 (including VAT) will get you a Q6600, an ASUS P45 MB, 4Gb of 1066 (OCZ) RAM and a 700W modular PSU (again OCZ). If you can reuse your other components then you'll have a capable system for not much money (in the great scheme of things).
Regards,
Chris
Regards,
Chris
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Re: Any of these Q6600 any good?
Cheers for the info guys I have some serious thinking to do, as well as convincing er indoors which is the hard bit 
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Re: Any of these Q6600 any good?
Its in Tonys Sig... :roll: Id either go two ways to get a PC, either A; Go and buy a prebuilt one, or B; build one... I did B and its cost me a huge amount of money to get what i want, but its no cheep spec'd system and ive not skimped on parts either! Lets say ive £400 worth of hard drives... My advise is if you have the experince or want to build a new system go that route but for the same amount of money in a shop wont buy the same specs...ChrisHunt wrote:I can't remember what vid card you've got but if 8800 or better then you could keep that
Chris
Re: Any of these Q6600 any good?
So it is.... Stupid Boy Pike!!
In that case another £135.67 will get a very nice Gainward 9800GTX+ or a 9800GT for a little over £100 but the extra £30 is worth the investment in this case. A quick look at ebay shows that unless you're lucky with a bid the buy-now prices are not dissimilar to those on overclockers.co.uk (except you can't get an 8800 card there anymore).
Tony take a look at the video card performance index over at toms hardware http://www.tomshardware.co.uk to see how various cards perform with FSX - Nvidia cards generally do better than similar ATI, i.e. a 9800GTX does better than the similarly priced 4870 but the 4870 does better with other games.
Finally on video cards and FSX - generally faster and more capable cards don't provide a substantial improvement on frame rates but there are improvements in quality and the more memory a video card has the better - 512Mb or above being acceptable. You might find that your 8600 will be sufficient for now.
Regards,
Chris
In that case another £135.67 will get a very nice Gainward 9800GTX+ or a 9800GT for a little over £100 but the extra £30 is worth the investment in this case. A quick look at ebay shows that unless you're lucky with a bid the buy-now prices are not dissimilar to those on overclockers.co.uk (except you can't get an 8800 card there anymore).
Tony take a look at the video card performance index over at toms hardware http://www.tomshardware.co.uk to see how various cards perform with FSX - Nvidia cards generally do better than similar ATI, i.e. a 9800GTX does better than the similarly priced 4870 but the 4870 does better with other games.
Finally on video cards and FSX - generally faster and more capable cards don't provide a substantial improvement on frame rates but there are improvements in quality and the more memory a video card has the better - 512Mb or above being acceptable. You might find that your 8600 will be sufficient for now.
Regards,
Chris