Not British, but classic...

Post by **Garry Russell** » 05 Oct 2006, 16:49

Nice one Eddie

Garry

speedbird591 · Post by **speedbird591** » 05 Oct 2006, 17:35

VEGAS wrote:Normally I would go into the panel folder and delete textures but there is only a CFG file in there.

Hi Eddie. Remember that the Tinmouse panel has it's own folder: fs9\aircraft\fsfsconv\panel.b732.adv and the .cfg file in the aircraft panel folder aliases to this. You'll probably find the offending views in there. I haven't got any wing views so I can't confirm it.

Chris - many thanks for the tips on flying the approach. I'm going to settle myself down for a couple of hours and see if I can crack it with Garry's fine a/c choice

Ian

VEGAS · Post by **VEGAS** » 05 Oct 2006, 19:04

speedbird591 wrote:
VEGAS wrote:Normally I would go into the panel folder and delete textures but there is only a CFG file in there.
Hi Eddie. Remember that the Tinmouse panel has it's own folder: fs9/aircraft/fsfsconv/panel.b732.adv and the .cfg file in the aircraft panel folder aliases to this. You'll probably find the offending views in there. I haven't got any wing views so I can't confirm it.

Chris - many thanks for the tips on flying the approach. I'm going to settle myself down for a couple of hours and see if I can crack it with Garry's fine a/c choice

Ian

Hi Ian,

Damn your right!!

I forgot about that little tinker hiding away amongst the Aircraft folders.

Onto it now.

Thanks for you time.

ATB

speedbird591 · Post by **speedbird591** » 06 Oct 2006, 12:39

Phew! Managed it at last :roll:
Thanks to Macs for the HU, to Chris for the advice, to DM for the 1-11 and ... and ... and ... oh, yes... and Garry for the paint job

I hope nobody's going to have a go at me for staying high and fast over that nasty little ridge :sad: What a place to build an airport! I think the lee of that ridge might be a good place for a scrapyard.

Ian

Chris Trott · Post by **Chris Trott** » 06 Oct 2006, 12:47

I'm just wondering, what is seen as challenging about that approach?

I look at it, and really I don't see anything hugely challenging as long as you fly a VOR arc, which is something I trained to do as a Private Pilot and is even more simplified using an RMI (which most airliners have some variation on).

I just wonder because there's difficult approaches due to having to weave in and out of terrain to make it in safely, and then there's difficult approaches becuase the pilots just can't fly them.

speedbird591 · Post by **speedbird591** » 06 Oct 2006, 13:11

Oh, Chris - you're priceless!

Do you have any friends?

Ian

Macs · Post by **Macs** » 06 Oct 2006, 13:24

Chris Trott wrote:I'm just wondering, what is seen as challenging about that approach?

I look at it, and really I don't see anything hugely challenging as long as you fly a VOR arc, which is something I trained to do as a Private Pilot and is even more simplified using an RMI (which most airliners have some variation on).

I just wonder because there's difficult approaches due to having to weave in and out of terrain to make it in safely, and then there's difficult approaches becuase the pilots just can't fly them.

Chris,
You are correct in the sense that any able pilot should be able to do this correctly, but I find this approach particularly challenging due to the amount of workload involved, specially with one pilot. In particular, the turn to final, if done correcly( no cheating with the RMI) is specially hard to manage, I have found it can be a simple gentle turn to tie in right, but you also have to managae height, speed, instrument management (changing frequencies and radials), safety (checklists) and to top it off communications!

You can always make a sloppy approach, but anybody can do that

I still have to try it with the 1-11 though...

regards,

Macs

Jon.M · Post by **Jon.M** » 09 Oct 2006, 20:23

Hi Macs,

I finally got round to flying into MGGT a couple of times. Then I noticed that I was flying a different approach to you. :roll:

I've got a tutorial for the VOR/DME approach:
http://www.fscharts.com/index.php?actio ... rport=2025

I've been coming in from the PALEN waypoint, this is the nearest I could get with FS flight planner.

The critical bit is turning on to the 170Â° radial from AUR when you're right on top of it here

Start descending from 9,000ft to be at 7,000ft six miles from AUR then turn right to 330Â° heading-

to pick up the 015Â° radial inbound. You'll have to start descending to 5,460ft whilst you're still in the turn or you'll be above the glideslope. When you're on the glideslope by the VASI lights select 700ft descent,

and Bob's you're uncle.

I also tried it with this

left it a bit late to descend and

stopped here. Obviously the runway should be a bit longer and slightly further to the right.

Have fun.

Jon

Macs · Post by **Macs** » 10 Oct 2006, 00:18

Jon,

I see, you did the VOR/DME only Approach, which is a bit easier since it is much more like a teardrop turn. Anyway, great work! Keep on it. I am getting a bit better myself ont eh DME ARC version, but I still stink although not as much as before

. Flying this approach reminds me a lot of Golf, you have practice a lot to be a bad player

regards,
Macs

Jetset · Post by **Jetset** » 10 Oct 2006, 16:14

speedbird591 wrote:Oh, Chris - you're priceless!

Do you have any friends?

Ian

No