Hi DM,
Tks for that (and Ben too)

The basics I can still remember.. speed, alt.. it's basically the fuelburn I'm after
Not quite sure what you mean by 'cheating' mate :think: It's ok to say that you like to navigate yourself but where do you get your info from?? Do you use charts (high/low level and approach plates) or use the default flightplanner??
FSNav is pretty much like the default planner only more so. You can use it in exactly the same fashion.. eg, plonk yourself at your departure airport and type in the ICAO code of your destination but it has much greater flexibility. You can route direct to, nav to nav, low level jetways, high level jetways and what you get out is a reasonably accurate facsimile of the real thing. The program can be updated with the latest Airac info to ensure that your flightplans are always reasonably up to date. What it can also do is give you a fair indication of your eta and fuelburn based on whichever aircraft you wish to fly. Problem here is, there are a default selection given to you but no one fly's the default..
do they??
You
can use it to actually fly the aircraft from point a to point b or use it as a moving map display. Intersections are all marked along with freqs/speeds and altitudes so if you want, you can fly the darned thing yourself. What FSNav
doesn't do is route you to Canada if you plan to fly to Brazil.. something the default flightplanner is very adept at
If you fly your routes with charts e t c.. kudos to you matey

For me.. that's too time consuming so I suppose in it's purest form, FSNav is a cheat by comparison. It's no more a cheat than us all being here flying whatever we feel like though as very few of us are type rated on anything fancier than a car
It is possible to add information taken from real world flightplans and fly a route
exactly as in the real world so you can think of it as your personal navigator. Cast your mind back to the heady days of the C1K release if you will. I input data into FSNav directly as given off a Jeppesen chart for one of Tonks flights (it was an old one and not classified.. not that normal flights are classified anyway) and the end result was that my flight and what Tonks had planned for were within 900kg. This of course shows two things.. FSNav can be used as a reasonably accurate navigation aid (something the default planner cannot!!) and your C1K model is pretty darned close to the real thing
End of sales pitch!!

I feel I have to mention FSBuild here too which is similar to the same. FSNav was recommended to me by an old Valiant pilot and FSBuild comes recommended by a current ATC.. PeteP (Pete was on the beta team)
ATB
DaveB :tab: