New aircraft types on fleet

Post by **DaveB** » 16 Sep 2006, 14:40

It's one of those odd companies where the name morphed at some point but the aircraft model didn't. I have references to it in numerous books here and for the Skyvan, it is listed as Short Bros. and Harland Ltd. Another variation was Short Bros. (Rochester and Bedford) Ltd though this was prior to aircraft like the Sealand. I reckon that although the official registered name probably was Short Bros. and Harland Ltd, by this time.. the company was better known as Shorts (no apostrophe). I don't think the Skyvan or Skyliner were ever Shorts Skyvan or Shorts Skyliner though which just add's to the mud

All reference I have to the actual aircraft are listed as Short S.C.7 Skyvan so blame it on the Irish

edit.. Now I see you bring a 360 into the equation.. A L L C H A N G E!!

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Post by **DaveB** » 16 Sep 2006, 14:47

Ding Dong..

Pulling out a copy of Janes (from a much later date) all reference to the Skyvan, 330 and 360 are under Shorts so suck it and see

At the time the SC7 was built (ref British Civil Aircraft since 1919 2nd edition 1974) it looks like Short with references to Shorts even though the manufacturers name was Short Bros. and Harland Ltd. My Janes is from 1999 and by that time, they were all Shorts regardless!! :drinkers:

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Post by **TSR2** » 16 Sep 2006, 14:56

Cheeky bugger!

Its a bit like calling the Vickers VC10 the Vickers Aircraft Company VC10... it doesn't happen.

Although the company was Short Brothers & Harlands Ltd after the war, buy the time the Skyvan was in full production (i.e. late 60's), the aircraft company had been separated from The Ship building, although the government continued to have a significant stake in both. The information I have indicates that the use of the name shorts for marketing the aircraft started during the war in an unofficial sense, but became the name used officially in the late 60's, probably arround the time the series 3 with the turboprops was being introduced comercially and the 330 was in the early stages of developement.

Post by **DaveB** » 16 Sep 2006, 15:36

Ben wrote:

Its a bit like calling the Vickers VC10 the Vickers Aircraft Company VC10... it doesn't happen

I presume by thay, you mean the Vickers Armstrong VC10 :shock: :roll:

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Post by **TSR2** » 16 Sep 2006, 17:25

Doh! :doho:

Just when I thought I was being a smart arse.

Post by **Garry Russell** » 16 Sep 2006, 18:06

It was short right up to the Short SD.3-30

Then it was revamped as the Shorts 330 I think when the 360 was coming about as that was originally referred to the SD.3-60

During the main Skyvan era it was still Short..Short SC.7 Skyvan.

Just a modern sleeker name......well the product was none too sleek

Garry

Post by **DaveB** » 16 Sep 2006, 18:24

Sum's the little tinker up very well Garry

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Chris Trott · Post by **Chris Trott** » 16 Sep 2006, 19:44

Just goes to show I can get something mostly right once in a while...

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Post by **DaveB** » 16 Sep 2006, 21:15

I'm just happy to get some things right ALL of the time. Beyond that.. well, let's not go there!!

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