Marcel Kuhnt Trislander

[misterkleen]

I recently rediscovered this fun and funky aircraft. I have noticed one issue I Was wondering if you could help on on the VC in the plane at night is extremely dark with all the lighting turned on the 2D panel works fine at night . It is the VC that is dark!!! Does anyone know of the fix for this?

Thanks

[alan cottrill]

I could not remember if i suffered the same problem or not,so i have just tried flying it,and i get the same results as you,so i opened up the inst panel.cfg file,i could not see any mention of switches,in either 2d or vc sections,so i can only suggest getting in touch with marcel kunt,and see if he has done a fix for this.
regards alan.

[Jonbouy]

That's an interesting question I've been flying it for the last year in Lydd Air colours.

But I've never flown it after dusk or before dawn. So I'm no help whatsoever

She is a lovely plane and had I never read this thread I'd probably never have known about that issue. I'm off now to find out what else is 'wrong' with it.

[Garry Russell]

There appears to be no VC lighting

That doesn't mean there is something "wrong" with it....just that it was not done.

It is a high quality freebe and was issued sometime ago now at a time when it was very advanced work of art.


Garry

[Brian Franklin]

It would be a relatively simply matter to put a vc light in by editing the [LIGHTS] section of the aircraft.cfg.

Just find out where the light needs to be located from the aircraft datum in feet (fore/aft, left/right and vertical). The light type is 4. An example is shown below.

[LIGHTS]
// Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit
// Type, longitude, lateral, vertical
light.7 = 4, 6.00, 0.00, 2.50, fx_vclight

Not the best method but it sure works, for best effect have the light just behind the viewpoint and perhaps use two if it is a two seat cockpit.

Brian

[alan cottrill]

Thanks brian.
You where on the right track,got me thinking and i have found the fix.
the vc lights where there all along,just a case of spotting the mistake made by marcel.
i looked into the bn2b and 2a,which both had vc lights,and found the line that is used,i noticed he had the same figs for the trislander,and because of this the switch would not even operate.
also someone mentioned is there any more problems with this aircraft,answer yes,i found that while i was taxiing on an add on airport,the aircraft suddenly started jumping about like a kangaroo,until it self distructed.
below are the mods i made to the aircraft.cfg file,these did not stop the bounceing,but did stop it from distroying itself,also made the aircraft more flyable,with all the pax combinations.

this section below improved the flying in my opinion look for the // at the begining of the lines,these are the ones turned off,and the line below is the new one thats altered

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
reference_datum_position=-0.200, 0.000, 0.000
//empty_weight_CG_position=0.000, 0.000, 0.000 //original
empty_weight_CG_position=0.800, 0.000, 0.000 //new fig
max_number_of_stations=50

//station_load.0=176.000, 5.900, -1.000, 0.000 //pilot original
station_load.0 = "176.000, 8.000, -1.000, 0.000, Pilot" //new line
//station_load.1=2560.000, 0, 0, 0 //original
station_load.1 = "640.000, 3.000, 0.000, 0.000, Reihen 1 u. 2" //new line
station_load.2 = "640.000, 1.800, 0.000, 0.000, Reihen 3 u. 4"
station_load.3 = "640.000, -1.800, 0.000, 0.000, Reihen 5 u. 6"
station_load.4 = "640.000, -3.000, 0.000, 0.000, Reihen 7 u. 8"

empty_weight=5480
empty_weight_roll_MOI=8118.000
empty_weight_pitch_MOI=5290.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI=11466.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI=0.000
max_gross_weight=10000.000
//CG_forward_limit=0.000 //original
CG_forward_limit=3.150 //new fig
//CG_aft_limit=1.000 //old fig
CG_aft_limit=-3.390 //new fig

this section stopped the self destruction bounce at one of my addon airports
point.1 and point.2 the idt only was altered but point.0 was replaced,this was to give better turning circle,and give a better appearance of the nose wheel to ground

[contact_points]

//class, y, x, z, IDT, Brake, Wheel, steer, comp,max/stat,damp, extT, retT, sound
//point.0=1.000, 22.520, 0.000, -3.760, 800.000, 0.000, 0.650, 70.000, 0.300, 3.000, 0.653, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 //original

point.0=1.000, 22.520, 0.000, -3.760, 1700.000, 0.000, 0.650, 60.000, 0.340, 2.200, 0.653, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 //new

point.1=1.000, -1.167, -6.250, -3.850, 1600.000, 1.000, 0.700, 0.000, 0.310, 2.500, 0.703, 0.000, 0.000, 2.000 //new idt original was 800.000

point.2=1.000, -1.167, 6.250, -3.850, 1600.000, 2.000, 0.700, 0.000, 0.310, 2.500, 0.703, 0.000, 0.000, 3.000 //new idt original was 800.000

this section fixed the vc lights problem line 5

[LIGHTS]
light.0=2, -2.353, 0, -2.488, fx_beacon,
light.1=2, -5.570, 0, 2.927, fx_beacon,
light.2=3, 1.4 , 23.4 , 3.0, fx_navgre,
light.3=3, 1.4 , -23.600 , 3.0, fx_navred,
light.4=3, -24.9 , 0 , 7.268, fx_navwhi,
//light.5=4, 5.77, 0.00, 0, fx_vclighth, //original
light.5=4, 10.77, 0.00, 0, fx_vclighth, //this is the new position for inst panel lights

use notepad to edit the aircraft.cfg file and save.
regards alan. :dance:

[Garry Russell]

Thanks for that Alan

Garry

[ferryman]

I live under the So'ton - Alderney flightpath, and the sight (and sound) of a Clockwork Tristar on finals into EGHI is delightful.

[Jonbouy]

There appears to be no VC lighting

That doesn't mean there is something "wrong" with it....just that it was not done.

It is a high quality freebe and was issued sometime ago now at a time when it was very advanced work of art.


Garry

In no way was I conducting a smear on the plane. I was just highlighting the perversity of my own nature.

As I stated I've been flying it happily for over a year and as soon as someone mentions something it doesn't do rather than all the things it does do well and I start thinking its lacking in some way.

It IS still a work of art and still one of my favourites and an indispensable part of my 'Lydd' hangar.

[Garry Russell]

No probs mate

Understood no smear intended

Looks like Alan has a fix anyway so all is sweet.

ATB

Garry