Smoke ban rule plans are unveiled

andy · Post by **andy** » 17 Jul 2006, 22:50

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5188796.stm

What do you think.........??? :think:

Charlie Bravo · Post by **Charlie Bravo** » 17 Jul 2006, 23:08

I'm all for it. I've walked out of pubs in the past because my eyes have started to sting from the smoke. It makes you're clothes stink as well.

TobyV · Post by **TobyV** » 17 Jul 2006, 23:20

I'm a non smoker and it'll be nice to come back from the pub without clothes and even hair stinking of fagash. I suppose the ultimate goal will be to eliminate smoking as a concept? With advertising being banned and smoking being banend in many places. They are looking into raising the age to buy tobacco which can only be a good thing. I just cant see the point of smoking tobacco

Only downside (relevant to this place) I can see is that I think I am right in saying that the land Brooklands museum is on is rented from Gallahers tobacco

VEGAS · Post by **VEGAS** » 18 Jul 2006, 05:55

I don't smoke. I never have and can safely say I never will. I'm all for it as I can't stand the smoky bars and pubs when we go out.

I'm not against people having a good time and if thats how they enjoy it then fine. What does wind me up is some people's disregard for non-smokers when in a public when they seem to blow smoke in your direction even though then may see you coughing or waving the smoke away with your hands! :tuttut:

Why is it no matter where you sit in a room with a smoker, the trails of smoke always lock onto to you and head your way? :think:

david balmer · Post by **david balmer** » 18 Jul 2006, 07:29

i had fond memories of the local country pub, fire place and the people. never realy thought of the smoke.
Since moving across the pond, all the places that are open to the public have smoking bans here in ontario canada. So when we visited england last year i took my other half to a country pub in devon for an evening out. well the inside was shocking, all the walls were light brown with smoke tar and we smelled of fags for days after.
so i would say yes stop smoking in the pubs, if you want to smoke go outside. i want my lungs to be tar free.

AndyG · Post by **AndyG** » 18 Jul 2006, 07:46

TobyV wrote: They are looking into raising the age to buy tobacco which can only be a good thing. I just cant see the point of smoking tobacco

Yeah, because that will really work, don't see many under-16s smoking around my way!

AndyG

AndyMinx · Post by **AndyMinx** » 18 Jul 2006, 07:46

Like everyone else here so far, I'm totally for the ban.
What else is there for me to say?!?!?

Cheers,

OneMacGuru · Post by **OneMacGuru** » 18 Jul 2006, 08:49

Being from sunny Scotland and a non smoker I can only applaud the government for using Scotland as a testing ground on this occasion. It has recently been proved that pubs have not suffered financial losses in our area but there is a downside. As you walk up the High Street, all the smokers are standing outside the shops and pubs - my children have been exposed to more passive smoking since the ban.

Oh well, you can't win them all???

Al

TobyV · Post by **TobyV** » 18 Jul 2006, 10:33

AndyG wrote:
TobyV wrote: They are looking into raising the age to buy tobacco which can only be a good thing. I just cant see the point of smoking tobacco
Yeah, because that will really work, don't see many under-16s smoking around my way!

AndyG

Andy, the way it works (or at least did when I was at school) is that older kids buy the fags and then sell them on to the younger kids at a profit. If you have to be an adult to buy cigarettes and if shops enforce this (there should be corresponding penalties for retailers who sell to minors in the same way there are for licenced premises) its going to make it harder to young kids to get them. Sure, they will find some irresponsible 18, 19 and early 20 somethings who will buy them for them but it will make it harder IMHO.

Post by **DaveB** » 18 Jul 2006, 11:49

Being the only one here who's livelihood this scheme directly relates to, I have to keep an open mind on the subject.

It's all very well to say 'I'm a non-smoker and have never smoked' but the fact remains that as long as there have been pub's and tobacco, the two have enjoyed one another's company. I am a smoker (I smoke a pipe.. the smoking icon at the end of each post was quite apt!!) and for my part.. I begrudge paying over Â£1200 per month commercial council tax (I pay a separate council tax for the flat upstairs at domestic rates) and not be able to have a smoke at the end of the night. Half of my pub is already non-smoking (this includes the main dining area) so why is this not sufficient???

Don't get me wrong.. I actually hate cigarette smoke as much as the most avid non-smoker but accept it as part of the environment I have chosen to work in unlike some who will move next to a pub then complain about the noise or move next to Heathrow and compain about the noise e t c!!

At the end of the day, my customers will vote with their feet. If those who must have a fag with their pint stay away.. I would not be so naive to presume that their places will be filled with non-smokers. I am lucky however, in that I have a garden and my hope is that I will continue to maintain a similar number of customers overall. More would be nice but a non-smoking ban is not going to make that happen

For those who worry about going home smelling like an ashtray (not very pleasant I agree).. you will still be going home smelling like a brewery which is an improvement I suppose :think:

Oh.. and I also think it's a load of BLX that those establishments frequented by the honorable members of parliament will be exempt from this ban. What's good for the goose should be good for the gander!! :-$

ATB

DaveB :tab: