Hi, could anyone help with a problem I have with the Rufforth airfield scenery (UK11/EG76 in the library). The Runways,Taxi ways and ground
buildings all appear ok but the default ground
texture/auto gen still appears inbetween the rwys rather than the normal texture for the airfield boundary. I can't think of any changes I've made to that airfield. I've added the Yorkshire Air Museum to Elvington and got various MAIW packs which would cover the Mil in the area. When I say default ground texture I have installed replacement texture packs (forgotten which) but this is the only airfield in Part 7 that looks to be affected.
Is the best option removing then re-installing Part 7? This shouldn't affect changes at Elvington?
Thank you.
Uk2000 ground texture missing FS9
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Re: Uk2000 ground texture missing FS9
Hi 602,
Could you post a screen shot please? I don't have FS9 anymore but it could be the order of the scenery in the scenery library that's causing the problem?
Could you post a screen shot please? I don't have FS9 anymore but it could be the order of the scenery in the scenery library that's causing the problem?
Ben.
Re: Uk2000 ground texture missing FS9
I did wonder about scenery library position as I have added lots of French scenery lately so it has moved down. Any way, here you go, hope it helps.
Here a link to larger pic http://postimg.org/image/6k0avuilp/
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Re: Uk2000 ground texture missing FS9
I dunno what to say about this. I'll have a look at Rufforth to see how it compares with your screenie. I can't see why only Rufforth has been affected and none of the other part 7 airfields
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Re: Uk2000 ground texture missing FS9
Thanks for helping.
It used to be ok so I've done something. Just thinking in the real world there are two seperate airfields at Rufforth, are they identified as seperate in FS? the reason I ask, there is UK11 which was default Rufforth (has no parking)? Then there is EG76 in the menu, are these both Uk2000? I do wonder if in a moment of madness I put some other scenery in there but there's nothing in the library to support that theory
It used to be ok so I've done something. Just thinking in the real world there are two seperate airfields at Rufforth, are they identified as seperate in FS? the reason I ask, there is UK11 which was default Rufforth (has no parking)? Then there is EG76 in the menu, are these both Uk2000? I do wonder if in a moment of madness I put some other scenery in there but there's nothing in the library to support that theory
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Hiya 602 
I'm a little confused about Rufforth. You say there are 2 airfields there in real life and I can only find reference to 1.. what was RAF Rufforth. Both UK11 (the default airfield) and EG76 (UK2000) remain active in FS9 but this is what you see if you use VFRPhoto Scenery (Getmapping/JustFlight/VisualFlight) for UK11..
Panning out slightly shows this a smidge to the east..
The second shot is of course, UK2000 Rufforth/EG76. In the first shot, UK11 is completely hidden so I suspect there is an exclude in Part7 somewhere though I can't see anything specific. The UK2000/EG76 airfield will have been positioned (for VFR users) to match the VFR scenery and as the default and UK2000 airfields are so close.. my gut feeling is they are one and the same, not 2 different (but close) airfields. The similarities are just too many. I can try and isolate UK11 by removing EG76 but I really do think they're the same airfield.
Why you've lost your base texture is another matter. Do you have any of the Yorkshire Airfields series installed? Batch one included UK11
EDIT: Ok.. a little more investigation reveals what belongs where. The 3 files york.bgl, yorkexc.bgl and yorktaxi.bgl are the 3 scenery files for Rufforth in Part7 scenery. yorkexc.bgl exludes the UK11.bgl which is the default airfield in AP947120.BGL.. york.bgl and yorktaxi.bgl are the visual aspects of UK2000 Rufforth and in addition, there's AF2_EG76.bgl which is the afcad for UK2000 Rufforth and lives in UK2000 af2_high/scenery.
A thought has just occured to me. I use VFRPhoto scenery and the UK2000 files match that so there is no Rufforth base texture as such.. it uses VFRPhoto. You say you've changed your base tiles but can't remember what they are or when you changed them. Is it possible you had VFRPhoto installed before or selected VFR user when you installed Part7? This would explain why your EG76 doesn't seem to match what's underneath if that makes sense. I'm gonna have to go back and read your posts again just to make sure where you are scenery-wise.
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I'm a little confused about Rufforth. You say there are 2 airfields there in real life and I can only find reference to 1.. what was RAF Rufforth. Both UK11 (the default airfield) and EG76 (UK2000) remain active in FS9 but this is what you see if you use VFRPhoto Scenery (Getmapping/JustFlight/VisualFlight) for UK11..
Panning out slightly shows this a smidge to the east..
The second shot is of course, UK2000 Rufforth/EG76. In the first shot, UK11 is completely hidden so I suspect there is an exclude in Part7 somewhere though I can't see anything specific. The UK2000/EG76 airfield will have been positioned (for VFR users) to match the VFR scenery and as the default and UK2000 airfields are so close.. my gut feeling is they are one and the same, not 2 different (but close) airfields. The similarities are just too many. I can try and isolate UK11 by removing EG76 but I really do think they're the same airfield.
Why you've lost your base texture is another matter. Do you have any of the Yorkshire Airfields series installed? Batch one included UK11
EDIT: Ok.. a little more investigation reveals what belongs where. The 3 files york.bgl, yorkexc.bgl and yorktaxi.bgl are the 3 scenery files for Rufforth in Part7 scenery. yorkexc.bgl exludes the UK11.bgl which is the default airfield in AP947120.BGL.. york.bgl and yorktaxi.bgl are the visual aspects of UK2000 Rufforth and in addition, there's AF2_EG76.bgl which is the afcad for UK2000 Rufforth and lives in UK2000 af2_high/scenery.
A thought has just occured to me. I use VFRPhoto scenery and the UK2000 files match that so there is no Rufforth base texture as such.. it uses VFRPhoto. You say you've changed your base tiles but can't remember what they are or when you changed them. Is it possible you had VFRPhoto installed before or selected VFR user when you installed Part7? This would explain why your EG76 doesn't seem to match what's underneath if that makes sense. I'm gonna have to go back and read your posts again just to make sure where you are scenery-wise.
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Re: Uk2000 ground texture missing FS9
Here's what UK2000 EG76/Rufforth looks like with VFRPhoto removed.. note UK11 to the right of the shot with the runway hidden by the exclude:
I've not selected 'non VFR' as I don't believe you can do this after the install so all you see is the UK2K airfield sitting over default FS9 scenery tiles. Does this look anything like what you're seeing?
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Looking again at your shot with this one as a comparison, they're similar though not the same which would suggest either different landclass and/or a different tile.. either partially or otherwise.
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I've not selected 'non VFR' as I don't believe you can do this after the install so all you see is the UK2K airfield sitting over default FS9 scenery tiles. Does this look anything like what you're seeing?
EDIT:
Looking again at your shot with this one as a comparison, they're similar though not the same which would suggest either different landclass and/or a different tile.. either partially or otherwise.
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Re: Uk2000 ground texture missing FS9
Thanks again for your efforts.
What I meant by two Rufforth airfields is there is Rufforth West, the glider place and Rufforth East, for microlights.
Any way I've posted an overhead shot and it is similar to yours.The ground textures I installed were photovg and Ben Hartnett NewCliffs package as well.
When I installed UK2K on here I didn't select the VFR option, I just was using UTE and GE. I have enabled and disabled VFR scenery since but didn't change anything.
The other Yorkshire airfields, are they the Richard Maxted ones? I don't think I have any, was considering putting Pocklington on but never got round to it. Having a quick look Wombleton looks similar, maybe this is how it is meant to be? I just don't recall it looking like that and it doesn't fit with the style of the rest of the series.
What I meant by two Rufforth airfields is there is Rufforth West, the glider place and Rufforth East, for microlights.
Any way I've posted an overhead shot and it is similar to yours.The ground textures I installed were photovg and Ben Hartnett NewCliffs package as well.
When I installed UK2K on here I didn't select the VFR option, I just was using UTE and GE. I have enabled and disabled VFR scenery since but didn't change anything.
The other Yorkshire airfields, are they the Richard Maxted ones? I don't think I have any, was considering putting Pocklington on but never got round to it. Having a quick look Wombleton looks similar, maybe this is how it is meant to be? I just don't recall it looking like that and it doesn't fit with the style of the rest of the series.
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Re: Uk2000 ground texture missing FS9
Hi 602 
OK.. I'm with you now on the '2' Rufforths
TBH.. it's been so long since I've NOT had VFRPhoto installed, that's the first time I've seen any default UK FS9 tiles (outside Scotland) for donkies. When I did this current install, it was done from scratch with VFRPhoto then UK2000 on top so I'm not a hundred percent sure there IS a ground tile (or at least a base tile) for Rufforth or the other airfields. Once the UK2K parts are installed, the VFR User option is greyed out so I guess you can only select or unselect it at the intial install. Enabling and disabling VFRPhoto only adds/removes the ground tile and with the inability to reselect/de-select VFR in UK2K.. the only option would be to uninstall and reinstall again. I admit it looks rather odd with just the scenery sitting on top of default textures.
When the 'Part' series got updated as it was many times.. I only took the Channel Islands so far as I didn't want the new terminal at GUE. There.. the entire airfield sits on it's own base so while it looks out of kilter with the rest of the island.. the airfield itself looks whole. This is how I'd imagine the mainland airfields would look if users didn't tick the VFR User option but I can't confirm it without uninstalling a 'Part' and reinstalling it again and not selecting the VFR User option.
Although the two overhead shots look similar.. they're not the same are they but this is very probably down to your photovg textures and/or UTE/GE if you still have them installed.
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OK.. I'm with you now on the '2' Rufforths
TBH.. it's been so long since I've NOT had VFRPhoto installed, that's the first time I've seen any default UK FS9 tiles (outside Scotland) for donkies. When I did this current install, it was done from scratch with VFRPhoto then UK2000 on top so I'm not a hundred percent sure there IS a ground tile (or at least a base tile) for Rufforth or the other airfields. Once the UK2K parts are installed, the VFR User option is greyed out so I guess you can only select or unselect it at the intial install. Enabling and disabling VFRPhoto only adds/removes the ground tile and with the inability to reselect/de-select VFR in UK2K.. the only option would be to uninstall and reinstall again. I admit it looks rather odd with just the scenery sitting on top of default textures.
When the 'Part' series got updated as it was many times.. I only took the Channel Islands so far as I didn't want the new terminal at GUE. There.. the entire airfield sits on it's own base so while it looks out of kilter with the rest of the island.. the airfield itself looks whole. This is how I'd imagine the mainland airfields would look if users didn't tick the VFR User option but I can't confirm it without uninstalling a 'Part' and reinstalling it again and not selecting the VFR User option.
Although the two overhead shots look similar.. they're not the same are they but this is very probably down to your photovg textures and/or UTE/GE if you still have them installed.
ATB
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Re: Uk2000 ground texture missing FS9
I think Iwill try and re-install the original textures. I kept a folder with everything in there, just in case that has affected it. Maybe I may go back to VFR scenery, I think I took it off so I could do night flying but never have! Would be nice for the north of Scotland to be done too but I guess it never will now.
I'll let you know what happens.
I'll let you know what happens.