Anyone use INS??

[TSR2]

I thought the VC10 had in in BA service Garry. I may be getting my wires crossed, but did they not quickly rip them out of the ex BA 10's in storage and fit them to the Vulcan and or Victor for the Falklands war?

[Garry Russell]

Could be Ben

I tend to live a little before BA

I never really thought about it other than because it was not included I assumed it wasn't there

There are a lot of thing like landing lights down as procedure and tail logo lights that were just not there in 'My time" and with the tail logo light not on the most of the aircraft modelled here at any stage.

So things becaome unclear as to the reality of anything in particular

[Vc Ten]

Good memory Ben
Pulled from a Black Buck web site :
All the B.2s selected for the campaign were those built with Olympus 301 engines. The engines had been thrust-limited to 90% maximum to extend operational life, but the limiters were now removed. The five B.2s also had Skybolt pylon hardware; since the existing countermeasures system didn't completely blanket Argentine defensive radars on the Falklands, a US-built AN/ALQ-101 jammer pod obtained from the Buccaneer fleet was fitted to one pylon. The aircraft were also fitted with a Carousel inertial navigation system, scavenged from retired Vickers Super VC10 airliners, and were painted dark gray underneath for night bombing
Cheers
Dale

[DaveB]

...but did they not quickly rip them out of the ex BA 10's in storage and fit them to the Vulcan and or Victor for the Falklands war?

Indeed they did. I remember Paul Gausden (ex Valiant/Victor/VC10 pilot) telling me that his trip 'down south' in the Victor was the first time he'd ever used INS and these were fitted courtesy of the ex-BA fleet

ATB
DaveB

[Chris Trott]

If you want to get really interesting, you can start flying the CL-44 which had ONS (Omega Nav System) which is a sort of radio-assisted INS. It was supposed to be easier to operate that INS as it automatically updated itself, but if the automatic updating system failed, you would have to manually work out where you were based on the radio signals and then manually input the adjustments. This could be quite complex. There is a video posted on the CL-44 thread in the Development forum that shows what ship-based navigators had to go through to find their position with their ONS systems.

[Tarasdad]

Back in my more active VA days I "flew" with INS quite a bit. One of my favorite aircraft types to fly in FS is the HJG Boeing 707 fleet, most of which are fitted with INS. I spent many hours flying virtual routes for ATA Virtual in those aircraft, including an around-the-world series - all flown in 1:1 time at that. It does take some getting used to but once you learn how to program the INS and how to use it you come to love it.

[Vc Ten]

Installed 2 delco carousels in david's comet overhead panel ,and have flown some quite long legs last one Dakar to Rio.
May install a further unit and will try out triple mixing although up to now navigational accuracy is not a problem. Still not setttled on a particular nav log yet Vroute is fine and uploading a pln file and copying into fsx keeps atc happy but I sometime plan a route in fsx then going to map and getting plots of the waypoints and copying the coordinates into the ins, again keeping to the flight route keeps atc happy all the way, so you get ils vectoring to finals I've tried dme updating but made a total cats of it will percivere with that one
Cheers
Dale