Concord(e) for FS9?

[Anders Nielsen]

Hello,

There are two payware options (SSTSim and Just Flight) and one freeware (Project Mach 2) I know of. Any other? Which one can you recommend? I am this time willing to go for a payware version, given it is significant better than freeware.

BR,
Anders

[Chris Trott]

SSTSim and JustFlight are one and the same if I remember correctly, just different packaging. Either way, the SSTSim model is excellent and is actually a development on the PM2 Concorde and worth every penny.

[DaveB]

Chris..

I think the SSTSIM Concorde is a different monster which has since been updated for FSX. The JustFlight Concorde is a repackaged PSS model which had no connection with PM at all. Neither the SSTSIM or PSS/JustFlight models are 'wash and go'.. they require more than a modicum of user input As to which is best (if you can still get the FS9 SSTSIM model).. I think they both have their strengths and weaknesses and a cigarette paper separates them.. a matter of personal preference. I never had much success keeping either in the air so I'm not the best person to pass judgement

ATB

DaveB

[JimHalinda]

I have the PSS Concorde and am pretty happy with it. (At the time I bought it, I didn't know about its rival, the SSTSIM).

I recommend you do what I did and study some real world Concorde books ( e.g. 'Flying Concorde' by Brian Calvert and 'The Concorde Book' by Chris Orlebar, both former Concorde pilots), which really helped me learn the real world procedures and flight envelope.

From what I've read on the web, the SSTSIM Concorde seems to have more accurate flight dynamics and models more systems, so if you're hardcore and want to do the job of all 3 guys on the flight deck, this is the one you want.

I think the PSS version is easier to manage if you're not the hardcore type. Even though both products offer a 'virtual flight engineer', I think the SSTSIM one still leaves quite a bit of non-pilot stuff for you to do, whereas with the PSS model, you can just turn it on and let him manage fuel, electrical, etc. and you can focus on the flying.

I'm happy enough with the PSS, as I don't really have the time to spend to learn all of the flight engineer's duties.

As far as the FSFRANCE one, it's my understanding that it's not available anywhere.

There is a freeware one available on avsim made by Libardo Guzman, but as I already have the PSS, I've never checked it out. I don't think any of the freeware models simulate Concorde's unique autopilot functions correctly (e.g. Max Climb and Max Cruise modes).

Good luck on your quest!

Regards,

Jim

[DaveB]

There is a freeware one available on avsim made by Libardo Guzman

If a simmer holds anything dear.. he/she will only use that model as AI (and it doesn't do that particularly well)

ATB

DaveB

[John]

IMHO the SSTSIM FS9 model is by far and away the most accurate, not just in terms of system, but also in overall profile. The other distinct advantage is that it contains a multitude of models, right from the prototypes, to the pre-production to the final production versions (something that the FSX variant sadly lacks!).

As for freeware, if you can find the PM2 model that's (again IMHO) the best one.

You can get a 'lite' version of it here...
http://www.bluesteelfs.com/downloads/Concorde_2k4.exe

Or by using wayback machine most it here from the original source, even some of the 'what if' colour schemes...
http://web.archive.org/web/200502051958 ... wnload.htm

You'd just need the panel from flightsim

http://dfs2.flightsim.com/kdlr.php?fn=pm2psvs.zip (login first)

Kind regards

John

SSTSIM model...

[Anders Nielsen]

Hello again,

Thanks for the input. Appearently the SSTSIM goes a little deeper systemwise. I also like the fact, that SSTSIM has a little more historical attention, by including the prototype and preproduction models as well. And thanks also for the book tip, I will take a look at them as well.
I have now finally learned to fly Avsim´s "Concordski" (TU-144) reasonably well, so maybe the learning curve to the SSTSIM not is toooo steep? I hope..

BR,
Anders

[DarrenL]

Is this is a different freeware Concorde - http://www.flightsimworld.com/downloads ... /1848.html

Seems to get good comments about it.

I think this is the FSFrance (FSX) one - http://www.flightsimworld.com/downloads ... /1769.html

Other bits and pieces - http://www.flightsimworld.com/downloads ... h=concorde

[DaveB]

Looking at the readme for that first link, it's the FSFrance model.

ATB

DaveB