First Flight

[Ant1981]

Just took my first flight with the airline, although a type rating training flight, forgot to apply the parking break before ending flight

This happened because, I ended flight on the client, after leaving the active. I'll not end it until I'm ready to end FS in future, as I always park up and apply the parking breaks. Does the penalty stick with me for good although this happened on a training flight?

Luckily this won't affect the airline, just myself.

I was down -$931 on crew and catering and -$2.883 on pilot salary. Does this mean what the airline had to pay staff? Not a balls up on my part? Or as it said I'm down, is it a balls up?

[DaveB]

Hi Ant

Unfortunately, whatever.. err.. faux pas you make on training flights will stay with you. It's not ALL bad news though because the more flights you make (not in the red!) will work out your rating. However.. the number of 'flights done' will always show less than a whole number (look at mine in my profile and you'll see what I mean). Don't let that put you off though. Most of the FSA 'rules' are unrealistic anyway but you gotta have rules. We have no control over these I'm sad to say

The airline doesn't get punished for these indiscretions so worry not You will note that as it was a training flight.. your fuel will have gone down to what it was before you started the original flight.. when you book your next flight that is. This is done to stop folk 'tanking up' on pretend training flights

I can't remember off the top of my head but you may well have been paid for that flight as were the flight crew but the airline has made no revenue off it. Just to make sure.. have a look at your profile page. If you have more money now than you did when you started.. you've been paid. If it's the same.. you haven't (and neither were the FCrew) Whichever way you look at it.. training pilots and air crew costs airlines money which is why it's in all our interests for you to get your rating and start earning

An advisory if I may..
We don't do any 'formal' pilot training on any aircraft.. we expect all our pilots to be reasonably au fait with an aircraft before they ask for a TR. As you've found.. any cock-up at this point will stay with you for as long as you're with FSA so if you're unsure.. try any booked flight 'offline' first working to the FSA guidelines. Training flights are in place to show us you are aware of the bogeymen FSA enforces and that you're not going to trip yourself up all the time If you're unsure about ANYTHING.. don't be afraid to ask here in the Crew Room. We'd much rather our new pilots kept a clean record, for their sakes, as any penalty is long lasting. The VA's reputation can be got back in pretty short order but the pilots record stays

ATB

DaveB

[Ant1981]

Thanks Dave,

Luckily I'm quite familiar with the aircraft and as you say, the FSA's rules are a little unrealisitic, as can be told as the penalty was simply for the parking brake (client ended before I actually parked, was a little mislead as it was said I can end the flight once the end flight button became an option, but was just taxiing off the active), rather than actual incapacity or neglect that could lead to an incident. Hopefully I can recoup my rating then.

[adinnhall]

I had my first flight today lasting 1.7 hours. It was an intro flight. I had spent much of the morning talking with the CFI. I started out as a Flight Instructor and then the first "real" job I had was as an FO on a Twotter for a start-up regional in the States.