Alphasim Hudson is out !

Post by **Trev Clark** » 11 Jun 2007, 09:48

Are customers able to reject the purchased aircraft?

Thats an interesting notion! Product unfit for the purpose perhaps!

I think most of the beta testing is done by the Alpha 'inner circle', perhaps Michael D can enlighten us, when he next drops past. Perhaps we are expecting too much, not every product will show the dramatic improvements some Alpha releases have shown recently. I suppose we should be grateful that we have a developer who goes beyond ABC (Airbus, Boeing and Cessna)

Try posting these complaints on the Alpha forum, it is looked at and sometimes acted on...I managed to get a nice shagpile carpet removed from the cockpit of the upcoming XB-70 by posting there

Post by **Garry Russell** » 11 Jun 2007, 09:54

Some of these thing would slip through for various reasons but I can't see that towing hawsers for aerial wire is a beta problem as such as the modeller should have sorted that before it got to that stage.

Having not done that then yes it should have been picked up.

Some errors are forgivable and some are perhaps unavoidable....but thick wires are avoidable and unforgivable in payware.

Garry

Michael davies · Post by **Michael davies** » 11 Jun 2007, 10:12

Testing is usually done by the individual developers friends, l stick to three or four l court ( for want of a better word ), all of which l respect highly, most of there input is acted on, some isnt as it will fall out side the collective remit, mainly thats due to time constraints and what we jokingly call ARC ( Anal Rivet Counting )....however, one mans ARC is another's must have.

Someone noted earlier about some Beta testers motives, don't worry I've been there, some just want a buck shee free model, weedling them out from the genuine is a tedious and time consuming process.

Each of us have our own ideals as to what is acceptable, l for one don't model vents or grills smaller than say 8" and prefer to texture them, or add brake hoses etc, others poo poo that and add everything as 3D.

Regarding the rest of the topic subject, I'm sorry my Nomex suit isn't flame proof enough to get involved.

I would however recommend posting your concerns at Alphasim, although Phil, Dano, Frank and myself visit here in varying degrees it is hard to sort things or 'tell it as it is' on some one elses front lawn, of course the inverse is true for you guys posting over there and 'telling it as it is', very tricky sticky ground all round really.

Best

Michael

calypsos wrote:
Are customers able to reject the purchased aircraft?
Thats an interesting notion! Product unfit for the purpose perhaps!

I think most of the beta testing is done by the Alpha 'inner circle', perhaps Michael D can enlighten us, when he next drops past. Perhaps we are expecting too much, not every product will show the dramatic improvements some Alpha releases have shown recently. I suppose we should be grateful that we have a developer who goes beyond ABC (Airbus, Boeing and Cessna)
Try posting these complaints on the Alpha forum, it is looked at and sometimes acted on...I managed to get a nice shagpile carpet removed from the cockpit of the upcoming XB-70 by posting there

Paul K · Post by **Paul K** » 11 Jun 2007, 18:36

On closer inspection of the screenshots, Simon might well have a point about those cowlings. That said, its so close to being an essential, if only they could refine it a little. I'd buy it without a doubt.

Does anyone here have the ear of Alphasim ?

Mickey D · Post by **Mickey D** » 11 Jun 2007, 20:19

Paul K wrote:On closer inspection of the screenshots, Simon might well have a point about those cowlings. That said, its so close to being an essential, if only they could refine it a little. I'd buy it without a doubt.

Does anyone here have the ear of Alphasim ?

Yup.

Hi Michael. I'm here. :hi: I come here too.

BR
Alphasim-MickeyD

PS. Rest assured chaps that your comments here are being discussed in the Alphasim Staff Canteen even as I type. :argue:

:drinkers:

Paul K · Post by **Paul K** » 11 Jun 2007, 21:01

Oh! I'm sorry Michael, I misunderstood. I thought you were inviting someone here to voice our collective concerns over at Alphasim where you and the rest of the crew would then consider them.

Its the Specsaver varifocals, you see...

So Michael, do you think there's any chance of the Hudson being re-engineered a little ? I'm a fairly loyal customer of Alphasim as are many here, and would love to see the Hudson sell by the bucket load. But things like that 2D panel, which simply isn't of payware standard by any definition, are putting me off it.

That said, I consoled my disappointment by buying your B-36. :roll:

fsafranek · Post by **fsafranek** » 11 Jun 2007, 21:44

Mickey D wrote: PS. Rest assured chaps that your comments here are being discussed in the Alphasim Staff Canteen even as I type. :argue: :drinkers:

That's an understatement.

:roll:

Michael davies · Post by **Michael davies** » 11 Jun 2007, 22:07

Ok first off to clear a few points up.

l'm Michael D, l do work for Alphasim, above also is Michael D who is a team member and works for Alphasim, l'm Mickoo, he is Mickey D, confused ?, yup we are too

.

Frank is also a team member and works for Alphasim, both Frank and Mickey D have access to the staff canteen, l do not, I do not have Alphasim in front of my name either over there, consider me a prefered consultant as opposed to a fully paid up team member

. l was not involved in the Hudson either, l've long since learnt to keep my fingers out of pies that do not involve me LOL, thus it would be wrong of me to voice dissent or agreement in any public form.

Frank paints, Mickey D makes scenery and l fiddle with helos and helo FDEs and bend the odd Max poly on some fixed wing stuff. I also didnt make the B-36....not the recent one anyway, l did the FSD98 / CFS2 one though LOL, dont think you bought that today either

, but l think you choose wisely.

What you write here will be read by a fair few of us, apart from me the others will discuss it in the Alphasim cafe, l discuss direct to Phil if required, the only problem with posting here is that you may not get a reply, there is no obligation for Alphasim staff to conduct there commerce on anothers site, it is considered bad cricket, thats why Alphasim has there own forum. If you post over there then a full dialog can be struck up with out having to tread through other forum rules and etiquette, we are after all guests here and we'd not like to out stay our welcome.

The fact that it is being discussed internally means that something is a foot, therefore it is reasonable to assume that some thing will be done, it usually is but as laid out above, it is not for me to say.

Kindest

Michael

Post by **Trev Clark** » 11 Jun 2007, 22:18

Thanks for sorting the confusion with the Michaels and Mickeys, sometimes a different name is used on a different forum, so that can cause even more confusion, perhaps we use the Welsh method...Mick the helo or Mick the scenery! :tuttut:

As I said, I have found the Alpha forums very good, far better than many payware support/disscussion sites.

Michael davies · Post by **Michael davies** » 11 Jun 2007, 22:26

Trev,

Just call me Mickoo, its fine by me, we have four Michaels in our office at work, MD, MC, MT and Mick ( hes an apprentice, he hasnt earnt the right to have two initials yet LOL )

Best

Michael ( Mickoo )