First Impressions of FSX SP1

DanKH · Post by **DanKH** » 22 May 2007, 11:22

I beg to differ that I'm afraid... FSX HAS brought us a new engine. It's a whole new way of rendering/building up landscape, go to any of the fs-teams blogs and it can be verified.

FSX is also pre-designed to take advance of the coming DX10 for all it can be not knowing precisely what DX10 has to offer yet.

Remember that DX10 and FSX development is two different departments. even companies. ACES for FXS and MS themselves for DX10....

It is said, and I commonly believe in good things, that the DX10 patch will be the fulfillment of extending the inbuilt functions in FSX to use DX10

please read the news forum at fsinsider to be at pace with the coming updates.

Post by **DaveB** » 22 May 2007, 11:31

I think that this is where most of the problems lie Dan. It seems difficult to see how a program can be developed to take advantage of a new technology when the new technology isn't available :shock: Only now are DX10 cards starting to filter into the public domain so M$ put themselves in a chicken and egg situation scoring a few own goals along the way :think:

Let's hope it all works as anticipated with the DX10 patch

ATB

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DanKH · Post by **DanKH** » 22 May 2007, 11:39

Agreed Dave, but I have a firm believe that there is "talk in the gangways" between ACES an MS, so I think ACES has an advantage over the Card producers....

the DX-team will of course want to have as many as possible to be able to actually USE DX10 technology when it finally arrives, so don't you think that the FSX team has received more than a few beta's under the way? I do.

Post by **DaveB** » 22 May 2007, 13:38

Yes indeed Dan and this is part of the point I made above. Somewhere, in some dark office lies a copy of FSX that probably works great on an average machine fitted with a DX10 card and with DX10 code in place

One can only imagine how it will run on a system to the spec Ben runs!! :shock:

ATB

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airboatr · Post by **airboatr** » 22 May 2007, 15:50

ohh I see :think:

DanKH · Post by **DanKH** » 22 May 2007, 16:00

I think that this copy isn't yet so much ready for the public as we want to think. I think that what we have now FSX+SP1 is about the best they have at the moment. But I certainly agree with you, that a machine if not average, then a little over average machine fitted with a genuine DX10 card will do FSX+SP1+DX10Patch good.

Today's average machines just aren't fitted to run programs that is heavily dependant on millions and millions of 3 dimensional calculation every second. FSX demands more power to run fluently, especially if you insist on having "sliders to the max" a bit over exaggerated if you ask me.
Setting all sliders to max will create a very unreal scenario. Think of all the cars, ships and animals that would wander around....I have more than plenty of that with my 4-5%

Even Ben's system will within a few years be mediocre, we all know that, and the mediocre system most of us have today will be sadly ancient... that's "evolution" and so be it. If it hadn't been for the constant striving for even more effective and powerful ways of doing things we would never have programs that does the things they do today.

It's a constant race between the hardware and the software developers, each side pushing the other side to it's limits....I think it's a good thing. You are not forced to buy state of the art every 2 weeks, that would soon ruin any household. A new buy every 3 or 4 year would be quite sufficient. The same goes by the way for a far more expensive toy: our cars! You could stay with you old Toyota, but eventually you have to "upgrade" the door, or tires, exhaust pipe etc. etc. likewise you spend a few quid once in a while on a bigger HDD, a better card, a new pointing device and so on. One day you have had it. Your old car cannot keep pace with the youngsters on the highroads, and you buy a GTi, same goes for the PC.....But even the GTi gets old one day and around we go again...

Well I'm on a roll here I guess, so I better stop and let others comment as well

Post by **DaveB** » 22 May 2007, 17:55

Indeed mate.. couldn't have put it better

The main decision most of us have to make is do we jump onto the HIGH END spec system now and enjoy the sim as best as it can be NOW or what?? There's no doubting Ben's system will be 'current' for the life of the sim (though I doubt he'll keep it that long.gggg) but.. as the months roll by, prices drop and technology will have moved on with it so do we wait?? The only thing NOT to do is wait a couple of years to get the monster of your dreams only to find FSXI is on the cards and you're underpowered again

Decisions.. decisions

ATB

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tonymadge · Post by **tonymadge** » 22 May 2007, 19:28

I think you can chase the rainbow in buying the best PC specs... I think its best to jump on the train at the best point then after 2 years swop trains... Otherwise it gets damned expensive

I have slagged FSX a lot I won't apologise for that but I do hope they get it right with DX10/Vista SP1. Frustrating that they released such a poor piece of software in the first place without ironing the bugs out, heck don't they have Beta testers

Post by **DaveB** » 22 May 2007, 20:33

Yes Tony and fair comments. You're more likely to find the 'end' of the rainbow than end up completely happy

I've never had a system yet where I can push all the sliders to the far right and everything runs as I want. Mind you.. that could just be me being stingy and not buying high-end hardware in the first place!

ATB

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Post by **TSR2** » 22 May 2007, 22:35

DaveB wrote:There's no doubting Ben's system will be 'current' for the life of the sim (though I doubt he'll keep it that long.gggg)

DaveB :tab:

lol The only reason i spent a small fortune on my new system was the FS is the only thing I really spend my cash on, so I treated myself (with the banks money). Of course the bits I bought in Jan will be less than half the price I paid for them by the end of the year, but it should last the 4 years i intend it to. It was the same last time i built my machine, that was February 2004 and i splashed out on a P3.06 HT which was top dog at the time... and 4 years on it was still up to the job.