BEA for the APLHA Whirlwind

FlyTexas · Post by **FlyTexas** » 21 Apr 2007, 18:42

Looking forward to your repaints, Garry! :dance:

Brian

Post by **Garry Russell** » 21 Apr 2007, 22:24

Ian

The Red seemsto be the same as the Red wings

Started off very red and quickly changed to a duller matt as the unstable red faded.

The screen shot is in FS paint which is not accurate and as it says WIP.

Garry

Post by **Garry Russell** » 21 Apr 2007, 22:58

Availiable now from

http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.ph ... =2&page=46

Will be uploaded to Avsim, Simviation and FS.com tomorrow

Garry

d0mokun · Post by **d0mokun** » 21 Apr 2007, 23:11

Nice stuff, thanks Garry.

I especially like the latest all-red paint job.

KR
Dan.

Post by **Garry Russell** » 21 Apr 2007, 23:11

Cheers Dan

One more BEA to do

Garry

DispatchDragon · Post by **DispatchDragon** » 21 Apr 2007, 23:37

Ian

Both PTH and NFH lived in Autairs hangar - PTH in flying condition NFH with its blades sitting in long boxes beside it on the hangar floor. PTH had just finished starring in the movie Arabesque at the time - with Gregory Peck , Sophia Loren, and really serious looking Jan Patcha in a cameo as a heliopter pilot with a ladder in his rotors. BOTH aircraft we very sun faded and almost
a brick red - as a joke the words "Wash me" had been written into the side of
NFH with a shop rag , which made the paint look "PO red" asI stated.

MD - As to the air dam - as I said it was to satisfy a memory - the only two
S55s I ever came into contact with in the wild so to speak were both from the original 3 built by Westland for BEA - the photograph in 1963 and again my memory in late 1968 and the hulk photograph taken last year all show one thing over a period of 44 years at least NFH was fitted with the airdam..In conversation with my maintenance controller who serviced H19s in Okinanawa in the late 60s and early 70s he says that to the best of his memory the H19s he worked on HAD the airdam and that it fitted to prevent breaking up the inflow of air to the engine in forward flight by the
downwash from the rotor. But he believes it was a field mod after one two many engine failures. As to the landing issue - Left side inboard of the left nose gear leg and it was both retractable and could rotate through 359 degrees.

Personally I find this model inferior to other Alpha products recently released specifically the cockpit that lookes decidedly 1950s generic.
Sorry and all that but I bought something that is inferior to the freeware here and judging by the the response - at least Rick and the Davids and
Derek et al will take constructive critisism.

Leif

Post by **Garry Russell** » 21 Apr 2007, 23:48

Hi Leif

The other BEA Whirlwinds G-ANUK and G-AOCF also had the air dam.

Garry

Post by **DaveB** » 22 Apr 2007, 00:42

I think I dip my toes into hot water here but constructive criticism is what MD is all about. He didn't do the model and as he commented.. pick a version and you're gonna be wrong whatever you do.

I have yet to buy (or even see) an Alpha release that is finished to the same level of detail or research/beta testing that we try to achieve here but it doesn't stop me buying Alpha models. It's the nature of the beast that some are going to be better than others

DaveB :tab:

Michael davies · Post by **Michael davies** » 22 Apr 2007, 01:27

DispatchDragon wrote: Personally I find this model inferior to other Alpha products recently released specifically the cockpit that lookes decidedly 1950s generic.
Sorry and all that but I bought something that is inferior to the freeware here and judging by the the response - at least Rick and the Davids and
Derek et al will take constructive critisism.

Leif

Leif,

Feel free to punch away, l'm not here to change your mind or argue with you, simply to point out that variants do exist and that what appears to be a tide of its all wrong, may well not be, because fundimentally people are using the wrong variants to make there case.

The bit that l did do....and it is an important part of the project....well l thought so, has yet to be ridiculed, commented apon or even noticed, which suits me just fine as it means I got it nearly right or its a component that no one is interested in.

I will not defend the undefendable, nor even get into discussion about it, brave as l am l'm not stupid enough to get into a oppositions landslide debate

.

So please dont take my repose as defence or an inability to take constructive critism, far from it

.

Given whats written....the underlying solution would have been not to ship any UK variant at all, stick to the US market.....who seem to be more accomodating to variant differences....and be done, that would certainly have given everyone an easier ride.

Sorry you feel you have been short changed, there is little l can do about that, unless of course it is something l did and can alter to your liking, if so then l'll take it to one side and do a bespoke correction for your good self.

Best

Michael

Post by **Trev Clark** » 22 Apr 2007, 09:10

Dave, check this out!!
http://www.alphasim3.com/forums/index.php?topic=3593.0