Avro York - BOAC routes

[ferryman]

For those who've got the hang of flying the York, but were wondering where to fly it, here's a couple of BOAC routes:-

(Passenger route August 1947)

YORK SPEEDBIRD service 33/34M

London (Heathrow) Wed/Thu/Sat dep 0830Z
Bordeaux arr 1100Z dep 1200Z
Tripoli (El Adem) arr 1730Z dep 1230Z
Cairo arr 2350Z

Cairo dep 2230Z
Tripoli (El Adem) arr 0415Z dep 0515Z
Bordeaux arr 1120Z dep 1220Z
London (Heathrow) Mon/Fri/Sat arr 1505Z

Captains are reminded that for the comfort of their passengers they should limit rates of ascent and descent to 250 fpm, and also not exceed 7000ft altitude unless strictly necessary.

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By December 1953 the BOA Constrictor's York operation was down to a single weekly freighter service (in association with Qantas) to/from Singapore:-

BA776 (all times local)
London (Heathrow) dep 0830 (Wed)
Tripoli (El Adem) arr 1820
Cairo arr 1330 (Thu)
Bahrain arr 2215
Karachi arr 1745 (Fri)
Delhi arr 1030 (Sat)
Calcutta arr 1530
Bangkok arr 1015 (Sun)
Singapore arr 1620

BA777 (all times local)
Singapore dep 0630 (Wed)
Bangkok arr 1050 Calcutta arr 1600
Delhi arr 1230 (Thu)
Karachi arr 1700
Bahrain arr 1115 (Fri)
Cairo arr 1010 (Sat)
Tripoli (El Adem) arr 1755
London (Heathrow) arr 0830 (Sun)

Captains of York Freighters are reminded that if canned or bottled goods are on the manifest, altitudes should be restricted to avoid damage to them. Similarly, if livestock is carried, then oxygen heights are a definite non-no!

[Garry Russell]

Cheers Ferryman

Just out of curiosity....Any idea what the "M" on the flight number signifies :think: ?

Garry

[Paule]

Ferryman John

Brilliant. Had been searching for route info without success.

Many thanks. Hope you are having fun in the York

Paul

[DaveB]

Paul..

A few good books as reference for York routes..

BOAC.. An illustrated history (Charles Woodley)
The Imperial Airways Fleet (John Stroud)
Britains Airlines Vol One..1946-1951 (Guy Halford-MacLeod)

I'd dearly love to get some Yorks for the VA but there is a downside if, like me, you only fly the sim at x1. The routes flown are just too darned long :sad: I was hoping for destinations a little closer but when I looked into it, I found pretty much what ferryman has posted above. We'll see though There might be someone out there who either has the time to fly at x1 or isn't fussed about going x2, x4 e t c so it's not crossed off the list by any means

ATB

DaveB :tab:

[DanKH]

Might be a little off era? Or is it just me? I thought "we" covered the 60'ies to 80'ies or there abouts...

[DaveB]

Hi Dan,

The Rapide routes are based on RAS (Railway Air Services) and BEA info matey.. starting at around the end of the 40's until they faded away so anything prior to around 1972 is fair game. It's only when you start to go later than '72 that we start to get twitchy
Route-wise.. we had to stretch the envelope to fit the 146 in as much of the info available is up to and including the 90's so you've gotta go with what you've got. The 146 is as new as we're ever going to get as in reality, we didn't have an aircraft industry after that.
ATB

DaveB :tab:

[DanKH]

Darn it!...most of my jet AI is from around 74 -76

Better turn it off then....

[DaveB]

No, No Dan.. don't do that

74-76 is just fine. Just because we didn't make anything except new airframes of existing aircraft doesn't mean you have to turn everything else off

Incidentally.. Brooklands class 'Classic' as pre-'72. A note in the latest news letter informs us that 'Friends' of the museum will now have to park in the main (new) car park unless they are driving/riding a vehicle 'pre-'72'. In this case, they can continue to use the old 'Campbell' entrance and park in the museum itself. There is no mention of 'Crew Members' so I may still be safe on the '98 ZX9R!!

ATB

DaveB :tab:

[Garry Russell]

There must be shorter York routes for Skyways Dan Air and BEA

The BEA may only have been charters and ad hoc schedules though :think:

TBH I'm not even sure whose Yorks BEA used

Garry

[ferryman]

Cheers Ferryman

Just out of curiosity....Any idea what the "M" on the flight number signifies :think: ?

Garry

No, unless it's "Middle East" - it's from a "BOAC Speedbird route to Middle East" timetable (10 Aug 1947), and occurs on all 4 routes (the others are Dakotas to Cairo, Lydda, and Beirut). The 250fpm restriction comes from some BOAC "Number One Region" documents of the period which I acquired on EBay a couple of years ago.

Dan, apologies if I have been OT - no offence was intended.

Having been born in 1946, I tend to regard the classic period of British Aviation as having started somewhat earlier and ending around about the demise of BOAC and BEA, but am willing to accept anyone else's view of the matter.