BAC 1-11 problem

[DispatchDragon]

David M

Thats why I made my comment - the first 5 1-11s Dan had were a hodge podge TL/TJ were 300s ex Eagle - CK/CP were 400(ish) ex American and we wont talk about ZED it was a total hybrid that came out of rebuilding an ex Phoenix aircraft at Lasham - ALL five aircraft had clackers not bells - my comment was simply that this may have been done because the overspeed warning on MF resembles the fire bells on the Dan Air aircraft- and that it was an attempt to differentiate between warning sounds. (By the way another Ex Braniff 1-11 I rode on had the same overspeed clacker - so maybe DMs comment that it was American mod would ring true except that the 2 ex Eagle Aircraft had the same sound. Seems silly to be discussing this as it doesnt make much difference to the "realism" of the model I didnt really expect the Spanish Inquistion


Leif

[MALTBY D]

Ha! Everyone expects the Spanish Inquesition on this forum!
We do it to death or not at all.

Sorry I did read your earlier message but have the short term memory of a goldfish, so didn't take in the bit about the first 5.
Yes, you can't get more British than a British Eagle 300, can you. So who knows - bells, whistles, clackers.

Anyway we've moved on from the overspeed. We're now discussing the use of designation codes.
Actually, there's the explaination. It's probably an option on the 1-11 order form that they have to tick.
Clacker [ ] Bell [ ]

DM

[Garry Russell]

The Eagle One-Elevens were built for Central African and Zambia. All painted up even the CAA ones were never delivered......so they may have been built to non British specs. They were bought by Eagle as completed but not used aircraft although the Zambians may have been delivered before cancellation.

A lot of useful information has come from this.


As to the Spanish inquisition..does anyone know what EC-BQQ had :think: :roll:


Garry

[DispatchDragon]

A little voice that said ¡Oy, el su ir al capitán rápido sangriento!??????


BTW does anyone know the legend of why many companies build their
gear handles with a wheel shaped handle and their flap handles with an
aerofoil shaped handle?



Leif

[gevers1]

Hi Francesco

Job to know but check you have the anti ice on and don't run the engines at max power for too long as that will cause failure.

Garry

Meanwhile, back on topic

This happened to me this evening on a VATSIM flight from Dublin to Stansted. Engine 1 shut down and I couldnt get it restarted. I managed to get back to Dublin one just the one engine (very scary by the way - stalled twice on the approach but managed to land perfectly).

Is there a procedure for restarting the engine?

[Garry Russell]

TBH I've not had a fail to restart on the One-Eleven and have had few shut downs

I suppose it depends on why it shut down in the first place

On a couple of occasions I have through fuel mismanagement had all four stop on the VC 10 and had difficulty getting them going and only managing to get three on line.

DM will be the best one to answer this and I am sure he will do so.


Garry

[DaveB]

Hi Garry/Seb..

Unless the shutdown was flynet induced or the 'taters' have been flown out of the engines, you can restart by opening the OHP and on the engine start panel, select START on the round switch and then flip the engine run/restart switch DOWN to restart. It should spool up within a few seconds

ATB

DaveB :tab:

[Garry Russell]

Cheers for tha Dave

Garry

[MALTBY D]

gear handles with a wheel shaped handle and their flap handles with an aerofoil shaped handle?

I'd never noticed that. And the 1-11 has them too. :redface: A clever idea that would have been totally wasted on me.

Back to the topic of engine failure.
If an engine stops due to persistent overheat, it is seriously damaged & can't be restarted.
The red lights at the top of the engine gauges + the master warning will light up if engines overheat.
You get a certain amount of time with red warnings before an engine failure.
If you switch on the 'top temp' system (see below) that will automatically reduce fuel flow if the engines are in danger of overheating.


It is impossible to overheat the engines if these switches are on. But you have to accept whatever power it allows you.
So long as you get 100% on the thrust index gauges (below) you have enough power for takeoff & don't need to use more if runway length is ok.


DM

[Garry Russell]

A little voice that said ¡Oy, el su ir al capitán rápido sangriento!??????


BTW does anyone know the legend of why many companies build their
gear handles with a wheel shaped handle and their flap handles with an
aerofoil shaped handle?



Leif

errrrrrr........nope :k:

I feel a nice little story coming up

go for it Leif

Garry