TNT 737 EGBB Crash landing video

tonymadge · Post by **tonymadge** » 08 Dec 2006, 08:24

I saw a photo of his failed approach at EMA you could clearly see where he had missed the runway and landed on the grass to the left of R27 aiming for the terminal!! two large gouges in the grass where I guess the undercarriage stayed.. the landing in brum, well this along with Leeds is the only major airport witha North South main runway and as we know in the UK the winds are normally from the West, it can be a tricky place to put down I was watching a few at work yesterday. A testing approach in 20kt gusting upto 40kt winds. I think the 146 has a crosswind limit of 26Kts a few of those yesterday were coming in at alrming angles to the centre line.. So I guess this guy who probably never landed at Brum before was wary of this and also his bottom had not recovered from the "half a crown, sixpence" syndrome after the landing at EMA. Thankfully no one was injured.

VEGAS · Post by **VEGAS** » 08 Dec 2006, 10:56

I'm with Dave on this.

I think the pilot did a wonderful job. Obviously there's an SOP for this sort of thing. Whether he adhered to it or not, he managed to get the Aircraft down safely during a full emergency and the crew walked away. Bravo that man.

Tks for sharing Tony.

ianhind · Post by **ianhind** » 08 Dec 2006, 11:39

From the PDF:

"approximately one mile from the runway threshold, the autopilot was momentarily disconnected and re-engaged. The aircraft then went above the glide-slope before developing a high rate of descent. At the same time, it deviated to the left of the centre-line. A go-around was initiated but the aircraft touched down heavily on the grass area to the left of the runway threshold."

So the touchdown was despite a go-around being initiated - that high rate of descent did for them?

Post by **DaveB** » 08 Dec 2006, 12:25

On the strength of that Ian, the high RoD would look like the culprit. A mile from TD is JackSh1t time is it really though you could argue why didn't the crew have her under manual control at this point anyway. :think:

We all watch the 'Airline/Airport' progs and it seems from these that pilots are keen to 'handle' the aircraft in for landings as they do little else on the flight. Don't take that comment the wrong way as I'm not suggesting that pilots don't do JS when the aircraft is on AP

We've all done similar in flightsim haven't we.. sitting there watching the dials.. not comfortable with your lot.. slightly fast.. slightly high so you throttle back and lose lift. Hitting the go levers has little effect cause you're now too low so we wince and suffer the heavy landing. We then sit there and cuss at our cock-up but live to land another day. The real world is a lot less forgiving :tuttut:

ATB

DaveB :tab:

tonymadge · Post by **tonymadge** » 08 Dec 2006, 13:16

They really should have done a go round, simple as that really.

speedbird591 · Post by **speedbird591** » 08 Dec 2006, 16:57

ianhind wrote:The aircraft then went above the glide-slope before developing a high rate of descent. At the same time, it deviated to the left of the centre-line

It seems that Microsoft's IGS intercept model is more realistic than we give it credit for......

Ian :roll:

Vulcan_to_the_Sky! · Post by **Vulcan_to_the_Sky!** » 08 Dec 2006, 19:59

All Im going to say is interesting video and They can certainly Fly better then I can!!

TobyV · Post by **TobyV** » 08 Dec 2006, 20:46

Looked a bit wobbly to me :think: A similar thing happened to a 737 in 1989 (?) in the US (cant remember the airline, precise date or location now

), but for some reason (I think it was something daft like some foreign object stuck in the gear bay preventing one leg from lowering) and the pilots brought that in safely in a manner that from what I can remember of the footage, looked less haphazard :think: Anyway, shouldnt detract too much from the fact these guys did bring it in safely... and nice flying by the heli to keep up with the 737 so well

Post by **Garry Russell** » 08 Dec 2006, 20:51

Toby

That would be the well publicised Piedmont 737 with a main leg jammed slightly down

The aircraft was structurally sound in and in good weather

This was a damaged aircraft missing the RH unit in bump gusty conditions ...........quite a different situation. :think:

Garry

TobyV · Post by **TobyV** » 08 Dec 2006, 21:11

Fair enough.... having visited EMA last weekend, I can certainly vouch for the fact that wind really does rip through there like nobody's business!