A very unhappy anniversary ...

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A very unhappy anniversary ...

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Today is the 50th anniversary of the first flight of the TSR.2 ...

If it wasn't for the bias and personal greed of politicians who clearly did not, and still do not, represent the wishes and needs of their constituents, the RAF, this country and the world would be in very different positions today.

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You make me feel so old.......I spent 3 years in the Weybridge D.O. on her!
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rohan wrote:Today is the 50th anniversary of the first flight of the TSR.2 ...

If it wasn't for the bias and personal greed of politicians who clearly did not, and still do not, represent the wishes and needs of their constituents, the RAF, this country and the world would be in very different positions today.

:rant:
Hear, hear! Well said, that man :thumbsup:

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Although, in hindsight, many now agree that cancelling it was probably for the best; it had become a monster: Too many 'departments' had wanted it to do too many things. There was no single 'boss' overseeing the project, and as the individual design companies had merged into BAC, this caused tension/squabbling over who should do what and who should be in charge. It was powered by an un-proven engine with known faults (re-engining it would no doubt have created more hurdles) and it went way, way over budget.

A political/managerial shambles.
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Hi,
Chris558 wrote: A political/managerial shambles.
Nothing changed there then!

Roger.
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I think it looked over expensive because it was the first time that a contractor had to supply a complete weapons system, but also all of those black boxes were designed using discrete components just as integrated circuits were becoming available. I think the engine problems had been resolved & were used of course on other aircraft were they not?
Anyway a lot of money wasted in my opinion - but then I would say that of course!!!
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I believed then (and still do) that if Australia had chosen theTSR2 instead of the F111 (which the TSR2 could fly the pants off) things would have been very different, money-wise. On the other hand, the UK still had a lot of Lend-Lease debt outstanding from WWII, and that really was the deciding factor for the UK pollies. Since those days, I have learned that politicians really don't have anyone's interest at heart apart from their own. :((

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