Classic British Flight Sim

I know this great model has been around for a while but I just reinstalled Project Fokker's plane back on my compy. one thing I realized almost instantly was that it reminded me of a certain British plane that I have been commenting about recently. so is it just me or is the fokker basically a updated carbon copy of the 1-11. I know that one is not based on the other but the fokker seems to be almost aiming at being a replacement for the older plane.

I just thought it was interesting and maybe this could be another reason that the 1-11 was never re-engined with the tay, (which is the engine on the f70/100)

please don't flame me too bad if I am totally wrong...

I have to disagree with that I'm afraid.

The F100 was an update to the F28, with the F28 being built to run alongside the F27.
When the F100 was announced, the F50 also made it's appearance which as we know was an update to the F27.

I've flown in both the F50 and F100 and both were very nice aircraft. Never been in a 1-11 though :sad:

Hi Bigred

There is nothing remotley similar between the two.......about as much in common as the 737 has to the A320.

If you compare pics they are not the same at all.

The F100 stems from the F28 which was even less like the 1-11.

Garry

The F70/100 was a revamp of their F-28 Fellowship which was powered by Speys and had a similar (perhaps slightly later) timeline as the BAC 111.

So maybe the F70/100 was similar to what a developed 111 might have been?

The Fokker 28 was powered by the RB183 "Spey Junior". I think its fair to say, it was closed to what the Hunting H107 would have been before it was scaled up to become the One Eleven.

There were a wide variety of proposed One Eleven upgrades, including 4 engined variants and all manner of things i nthe 70s. The venerable G-ASYD was at one point I believe a One Eleven-670 demonstrator for yet another model that didnt "take off". The 146 finally did for the One Eleven at least in terms of production in this country as the two were too similar, although the 146 is an improvement in certain areas even though the two are not quite designed for the same role.

I think the Junior had one less stage and certainly no thrust reversers.

That was the engine used as well in the Gulfstream 2

As to the F-28 originally it was thought to make it smaller and the Fairchild FH-228 was a shortened Fellowship 1000 powered by two Rolls Royce Trents.....not today's monster of the same name

That way the F-28 went up to just under the short 1-11 (2000,4000,6000) and smaller (1000,3000) plus FH-228....so it complemented rather than rivalled the British Jet.

The FH-228 was never built

Garry

I know they have nothing in common mecanicaly I was thinking more in general terms, like performace, range and the nitch that they are aiming for, they seem to me to both be short range regional airliners that cruse about m .73 at around 26- 30k feet, the fokker a little higher than the later,

I have actually been on a fokker at an airshow, and I lived in Raleigh NC where Midway had its hub before they tanked, one thing I noticed about the 100 was how quiet it was, (this was before the crg and 145 hit the market big). to me it looked kind of like a dumpy looking dc9. :think:

I thought the F100 had a hell of a climb rate when I flew on it... it was something else !

It's also the only airliner I've flown in that did a flapless takeoff.