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go and change my underwear!!!



What a joy Malpensa (Milan) is to get into and out of!! Actually, it wasn't quite that bad as the peak you see was off to my right but even so.. a rather more exausting climb than is usual was required to get over the Alps which included flying south first in order to gain altitude. Thank goodness that particular flight isn't at night! :shock:

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DaveB :tab:

The old Lancastrian is good fun too in the Andes... Given that the service ceiling for the Lancastrian is 23,000 ft and there are 69 peaks in the Andes above 20,000ft... it requires a little care

I bet!! Safety alt over the Alps is 18.3 so it was always going to be tight. Fortunately, the VC9 has a lot of spare UMPH!!.. not so on the Lancastrian! :shock:

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DaveB :tab:

good shot dave, nice to see that you passed over the same lump i nearly ran into a few weeks ago. flying the argosy into malpensa, not much time as a ran out of cloud and there were the mountains infront.
return i left as you to the south and did one big circuit to my left and over malpensa to gain height to cross the mountains. great fun
there is a little surprise for those crossing the pond and having to get into greenland. all i will say is follow the water in. half way over now, having a rest.

Wasn't it the Milan route that the a BEA Argosy came to greif on?

Garry

well i'am trying to fly as best i can, no one told me of this before i set forth. if it's in the flight plan then i'll put it into the mountains

hopefully you were not in flynet at the time as you are definatly less than 1000 AGL without your lights on.

Hey Joe.. that thought DID cross my mind too as I was online!! Oh, the humanities!!

David.. I've done the Greenland run on quite a number of occassions flying little tiddlers that couldn't go all the way over and yes.. there is a good way in and a not so good way in. When you leave.. going out over the water is the best plan too

Didn't realise an Argosy was lost out of Milan Garry :shock: I'd not been there until today and it reminded me very much of Turin sitting on the edge of a large basin to the east with the Alps almost directly to the north and west. I used to fight to get out of there (Turin) in the 1-11, flying out on the northern runway, turning right and south toward the TOR VOR.. climbing hard all the way before turning right toward Geneva!! It must be a fight in something like the Argosy :shock:

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DaveB :tab:

Here Y'ar Dave

It was inbound

One of the crew, I think it was P2 was also on G-ASXP when it was lost at Stansted during training.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/rec ... -0&lang=en

Garry

Tks for that Garry. It doesn't give a great deal of info does it but I should imagine it is very much like the Turin area which seems almost always in a low mist. I don't care much for flying into Turin (nor Malpensa for that matter) for this very reason. I don't like having to rely on instruments but you have to. Easy enough for a real pilot but too taxing on the old brain for me!
I'm glad they both walked away anyway though as you say, the P2 copped it some time later :sad:

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DaveB :tab: