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Landing light indicator

Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 21:05
by Vc Ten
Having been pinged for no landing lights below 1000 this morning A quick glance up to the switches at 5000 and thought: "Yes already put them on" But first time in the trident for a while and the on/off orientation is different, or it appears to be from the recently flown 1-11 :doh: . it made me think if anyones ever thought of an illuminated indicator next to the landing light switch. The client must pick up a true/false flag for the lights from the sim, could this be used to control a xml gauge placed next to the landing light switch ? Had a quick trawl on the web and nothing jumps out only an illuminated seat belt indicator :lol:
Do i need to get a bit of xml under my belt :rock: or can some of you experts out there help
Cheers
Dale

Re: Landing light indicator

Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 21:14
by DaveB
Hello Mate :hello:

If you were flying a 'standard' One-Eleven (not a 510).. it's likely the switches were the wrong way (American market pressures) though I honestly can't remember what the model does :lol:

Go to Allnodes and type CPT into the search engine. It should bring up a set of gauges (switches, knobs, lights) of various types in one download. You can then add a warning light to your panel. Thing is.. if you add it to the VC, it'll stay put and/or disappear.. it really needs to go on the 2D. I had a similar problem with the Argosy which, because of the way the switch works, it's easy to think your lights are off when in fact they're still on. I fitted one of the CPT lamps to that panel but since I got pinged, I usually nip outside to have a look.. just to make sure :)

If you'd like me to set one up for the Trident 2D, I can do that for you but it's not particularly difficult if you have something like FSPanel Studio (and who doesn't these days) :)

ATB
DaveB B)smk

Re: Landing light indicator

Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 21:32
by NigelC
From jumpseat experience, in the BIA 400s and 500s and in G-AZUK the on position for the switches was towards the windscreen. On the Air Bristol 510s, they were the opposite.

I find the towards the windscreen orientation more intuitive, i.e. you want to see where your going through the windscreen, move the light switches towards the windscreen :dunno:

That's my tuppence worth anyhow.

N

Re: Landing light indicator

Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 22:47
by Garry Russell
DaveB wrote:If you'd like me to set one up for the Trident 2D, I can do that for you but it's not particularly difficult if you have something like FSPanel Studio (and who doesn't these days) :)
I don't :worried:

Re: Landing light indicator

Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 23:23
by Vc Ten
Cheers Mate :thumbsup:
Will check out the Allnodes site and see whats there As you know i fly vc exclusively but the overhead is on a seperate monitor using the 2d panel so if you could make summat up :) :) :) :) Screws me for the ambassador whch has no overhead :lol:
Was a bit torturous this morning coming into Kastrup Total overcast and snowing like mad Vectored to fairly straight in approach so preparing for ils with some urgency :lol: Usually put lamps on around 5000ft or just as atc vectors me onto ils, (exept when unsure, or know that terrain requires them on sooner to avoid 1000ft clearance issues) But just glanced up to see the switches and by the look of them thought id already put them on. Wrong :lol:
Most of the models that we fly, the switches work in different directions Maybe Nigels right ive never thought of towards or away from the windscreen The comet always has me confused as the overhead switches dont seem intuitive. Need a few flights before im used to it again :lol:

Re: Landing light indicator

Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 09:00
by Dev One
Design wise I always thought that switches were up for ON on vertical panels, aft for On on overhead & Fwd for On on lower horizontal panels - the reason for this being that one could switch things off in an emergency or crash landing with one sweep of hands.
Keith

Re: Landing light indicator

Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 13:18
by NigelC
I recall a tale of a forced landing in a 1-11, probably apocryphal, after the demin water tanks had been fiiled with Jet A-1 in error and both engines cooked and quit as you might expect. After a gear up landing on a motorway just off airport, the pilots were going through the shut down checks when the flight deck door opened to reveal daylight and a fireman peering in, the rest of the airframe being some yards distant :dunno:

Re: Landing light indicator

Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 14:12
by DaveB
:-O

Blimey.. a shock to the system or what! :-O

ATB
DaveB B)smk

Re: Landing light indicator

Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 18:51
by Garry Russell
Sounds like the nasty accident to D-ALAR :((

http://aviation-safety.net/database/rec ... 19710906-0

Re: Landing light indicator

Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 20:15
by NigelC
That's the one Garry, the apocryphal bit is aboout the crew doing close down checks, as the Captain didn't make it. Shame about th F/O survived this only to lose her life in a Citation crash :dunno: