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BAC 1-11 400 Reference speeds

Posted: 10 Jan 2009, 21:33
by Davem2004
Hi,

Took the DM BAC 1-11 400 out for a spin the other day as I hadn't flown that particular edition of the 1-11 before (only flown the 500s).

Using the kneeboard and looking at the reference speeds for the 1-11 400 it was apparent that the speed reference chinagraph was not indicating anything close to the correct Vr and V2 speeds. I'm assuming that the 'SPEED_REFERENCE.xml' is primarily set up for the 1-11 500 - apologies if that's an incorrect assumption - and that you need to figure out the speeds from using the reference tab on the kneeboard.

If that's the case is there a work-round for this? For example, could you create a '400_SPEED_REFERENCE.xml' by simply copying the existing 'SPEED_REFERENCE.xml' with changes to the relevant lines in the XML file (I've tried to figure out what all those figures mean, but I'm simply not that computer literate)?

Those speed reference chinagraphs are one (of the very many) features of Dave Maltby's panels that I really like, and I only wish I could adapt them for other planes that I fly in FS. ( I assume it's one of those instances where, 'I could tell you, but then I'd have to shoot you...' ) :lol:

Cheers!

Dave

Re: BAC 1-11 400 Reference speeds

Posted: 10 Jan 2009, 21:44
by TSR2
xml is all dutch to me mate. Hopefully DM will be along over the next few days to put us right :)

Re: BAC 1-11 400 Reference speeds

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 11:52
by MALTBY D
Hi Dave

If you're looking at the kneeboard to get the reference speeds (ie. the manual that come with the model) then it should be showing the same on the SPEED_REFERENCE gauge.

There are a couple of silly things to check...

The 'Speeds' page (See on-Line version here) has separate sections for 200 & 400 series at the bottom. You sure you are not comparing with 500 & 475 series figures? (I doubt it)

The SPEED_REFERENCE gauge can only tell what mark of 1-11 it is from the 'title=' field in aircraft.cfg (there's a lack of good variables for this job in FS)
It will assume it is a 500 or 475 series unless the model's title contains the text 'BAC 1-11 200', 'BAC 1-11 300' or 'BAC 1-11 400'.
Check if the model you are using has a different title. Some repaints may well have more precise titles, like 'BAC 1-11 401'.
A title like that would make the SPEED_REFERENCE gauge show the wrong numbers for a 200, 300 or 400 series.
Stuff like this is easily overlooked by repainters, even if I had ever told anyone about it ! :lol:

DM

Re: BAC 1-11 400 Reference speeds

Posted: 15 Jan 2009, 18:28
by Davem2004
Hi Dave,

Thanks for replying. You're right; the 1-11 in question was the Court Line BAC 1-11 416EK painted by Garry. I've changed the title from "title=BAC 1-11 416EK Courtline" to title=BAC 1-11 400 Courtline." I'll give it a try when I get a moment, but I'm sure that'll fix it. Thanks again!

Great paint job Garry BTW!

Cheers!

Dave