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Well it started great went out on the bicycle to one or two pubs then thought ooh lets have alook at the bikes in halfords.

leaves me bike next to the sevicing area and comes back five mins later to find no bike. Well slightly unhappy about the whole situation i went back into the shop to be told ohh that happens all the time outside here.

Nice so £124 worse off and halford clapping there hands i go to the police to be told we dont have time go away and we will send someone round to your house.

So lunchtime today the police turn up while im out ofcourse, so gets a call at 10pm asking if someone can visit me about my missing bike tomorrow?

I mean god i know theres more important things for them to do, but is it just me that thinks this cr*p the way they are treating this? :sad:

Hi Union,

I find your account hard to believe in all honesty and whether or not you are impressed with the actions of your local constabulary following the theft of your bicycle the officer you discussed this matter with could not and should not say to you "we don't have time" or "go away".

Ok without sounding like I'm biased (I am anyway!) you have to understand that many Police forces usually have limited staffing levels dependant on the location. Because of this everything that is called in is prioritised and futhermore if no offenders are on scene or no immediate threat is likely to the public then the job is placed in a queue behind the more important requirements. Thats just the way it goes.

To be perfectly frank with you the fact you have had a call (and two at that) makes me think the local Police are indeed concerned. I would say that having established the facts over the phone when you called the Police, many call takers would simply refer you to the Police assistance desk where an operator would take sufficent details to complete a crime report and provided you with a crime number for insurance purposes. Usually this is the case for any crimes or incidents where there are no lines of enquiry.

Your last comment sort of answers your own post in the fact that they do have more important things to do especially given recent events in the news and the increased security status. Needless to say your matter does require attention but you have to understand everything else that is going on within the force area and the limited resources.

What I will say is, you left your bike unattended and unlocked - in public.

Given the fact crime occurs anywhere and everywhere, these are hardly the actions of a sensible person are they? :roll:

Vegas wrote:

you have to understand that many Police forces usually have limited staffing levels

Highlighted at a recent Pub Watch meeting.. a representative from the local council announced that 'EHO's' (a generalisation for the sake of argument) had received extra funding to 'Police' the new 'No Smoking' ban in England. It goes without saying that the landlord (host) of the meeting wasn't best pleased as 2 of his staff had recently been held at knife point by criminals who made off with the weekend take. A 999 call on completion of said robbery saw the 'Thin Blue Line' arrive half an hour later!! :shock:

The moral of the story is.. you are more likely to get fined £50 for smoking in public than caught for robbery Right.. I'm off down the local bank with my JCB (stolen some days earlier)

ATB

DaveB :tab:

hi vegas.

firstly i actually went to the police station as its just round the corner from halfords. the police station is the main command centre for the borough, and the person i spoke to was not a police officer but a civilan assistant who took down my particulars where i live name after i told her my bike was nicked.

She said sit down and some one will come and see you. 5 mins later i was told as they were too busy that to get myself home and the will send someone round.

Fine but it took them just under 24hrs to do that.

The only time i had a promptish reponse from the police was when i got attack by a gang of youths 10mins later while now back at home an ambulance turns up to deal with my friend. and the police 2 mins after that "horay". only to arrest me for assult because another passer by repoted it aswel and the police collared the gang who said i had hit them back.

I can also point out anther situation where when i was drunk i got my phone stolen in a pub that wasnt the niced pub the police reaction when they eventually turned up its your fault for being drunk and going in that particullar pub.
and the government want us to report crime????????????

Also thats your view point and i swear on my mums life that the above is all true

Have a look around http://www.5ive-O.org , might provide a useful insight.

Nick

Hi again chaps,

Dave, to be honest the new smoking legislation has'nt really had a massive impact on the Police forces around the country purely and simply because its primarily going to be the licencee's responsibility to ensure customers are complying with the law. Very much like when a person has had too much to drink and they are refused further custom and required to leave. The only time the Police will attend is to provide a lawful ejection from the premises and/or report any offenders for summons.

And as for waiting half an hour for a response to a 999 call for a robbery, this is completely unaccepatable and you have every reason to complain. I would.

BTW let me know how the 'job' goes.



Union,

the civilian counter clerk is a common sight at Police stations all over the country now as the government is attempting to get more bobbies back on the beat and keep staffing costs to a minimum.

Waiting 5 minutes is somewhat of a godsend seeing as many people have to sit around for hours waiting only to be told that an officer is still unavailable. Just remember, what if you had an accident and had to sit around at A&E to be seen? This can normally take hours and again this is a reflection of the workload and capabilities of our sector services.

I won't discuss the other matters you referred to seeing as I can't really make head nor tale of it them be honest. But it sounds like you could do with a bit of crime prevention advice mate.

I called 999 a few weeks ago because we were concerned for the welfare of a neighbour who lives next door to a good friend of mine....only took them 3 hours to turn up!

I can see where this thread is going and quite frankly I have said my peace, I won't take any more bait, sorry... :brick:

I like the story (urban myth?) where a woman called the police because someone was breaking into the garden shed. The police said they were too busy but would send someone round later. 10 minutes later the woman rang the police back said don't bother coming now as she had shot one of the burglars.

Two minutes later half the force were round at her house, including an armed response unit. When the police found no-one shot they asked the women "I thought you said you had shot someone"

She replied "I thought you were too busy!"

TBH I think the police are no different to any other 'industry'

They fail at the front end and it is so easy to blame the individuals that come face to face with the public.

In reality it is the bosses ultimately responsible for the resourcing that fail and those in front are frustrated as they are trying their best......often more that can be expected and are not only having to deal with an angry public but also the frustration of trying to answer to the bosses for failures the bosses in fact are causing.

So the bosses decide procedure and when it fails they blame the guy out in front.

OK so like anywhere the will be lazy people with a bad can't be bothered to do anything.....that's a fact of life, but the reality of a total system shortcoming as with many services is purely down to those at the top would expect those at the front to do the job their policies make all but impossible.

As to the individuals..well it is frustrating and annoying when this happens.....to the public now and then, but the PC on the beat has this frustration day in day out.

It is annoying if response is not immediate but what if you were surrounded by a gang wielding knives, called the police and were told that no one could come as they were looking for a stolen bike and would carry on looking as they were on a first come first served principle..

Clearly the limited resources have to be prioritised and if that means someone pops around next week for details......well that is the best that can be done.

I am sure the individual would rather deal with everything here and now but has to abide by the directions of those up above.

In a way the ultimate responsibility is with the public.

It is up to the public to vote in the right Government and stand firm and insist they do their job properly whether at local or national level.

So yes....shout and shout loud......but shout at the right people.

Garry