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Posted: 30 Apr 2006, 18:06
by Garry Russell
She does have that look about her Ben :smile:

And all those years ago as well

Garry

Posted: 30 Apr 2006, 18:21
by VEGAS
Excellent. The Belfast is pulling away from the chasing pack. Go girl go!! :dance:

Posted: 30 Apr 2006, 18:34
by TSR2
I do like a tyne (or four!) :dance:

Posted: 30 Apr 2006, 19:00
by AndyG
Garry Russell wrote:Thanks Toby :smile:

It looks quite big there, for a single seat fighter of the time that is.

Garry
Let's just say that where would have been no need for the marriage of McDD and Rolls-Royce products! As for not existing, the first prototype was under construction, although not quite at the "complete Mach 2 fighter sitting around in the hangar" claimed by some books; the centre and forward fuselage sections, the port wing (unskinned) and an unskinned tailplane were complete at the time of cancellation - unbelievably they are still in the RAF Museum reserve collection!!

Is it too late to change my vote DG? :lol:

AndyG

Posted: 30 Apr 2006, 19:40
by Charlie Bravo
Garry Russell wrote:Hi CB

Someone is making an ATP

Don't remember who but he showed it on this forum a while back

Garry

***EDIT***

Link to ATP project

http://www.bsmp.co.nz/
Thanks chaps, I knew of that project but there had been no updates for a while but some new shots have been posted in the forum :cool:

Posted: 30 Apr 2006, 19:53
by AndyG
Anyway Dave, you know you can't really build a Belfast; there is no way that Peter Mc would be able to do one of his famous inverted flybys in that (although you can lay money Kimber would have a try!!).

AndyG

Posted: 01 May 2006, 00:32
by ben_ukmil
i voted for the harrier. Preferably a GR.3 with an ear splitting soundpack!!!

Posted: 01 May 2006, 08:42
by britishtourer
In a Falklands War paint!

Posted: 01 May 2006, 09:58
by Kevin
Dave,

My vote goes for the P1121. It represents 'what might have been' had the idiocy of the Duncan Sandys 1957 White Paper not occurred.

As Derek Wood's 'Project Cancelled' says, it was to all intents and purposes a 'British Phantom' multi-role heavy fighter and a worthy successor to the Hunter.

Had it been built, it would have kept Hawker building world-class fighters for many more years, most of them for export.

I can't find anything much to say favourable about the Belfast as a type - it was a failure :roll: .

If I had a second vote, it would be for an updated Lancaster, or, even better, a Wellington! :smile:

BTW, as to the P1121 parts in the RAFM collection, I recall seeing a large piece of P1121 lower fuselage at Cranfield in the early '70's - it was used as an example of design/construction for engineering students. The TSR-2 was also there then, together with much else that is now at Cosford - I suppose it all went to the RAFM as a package.

Kevin

Posted: 01 May 2006, 10:43
by britishtourer
I wouldn't call the Belfast a failure, due only to it's exceptional cargo capacity.

10 Belfasts were made which means there were more Belfasts than P1121's. Therefore, the Belfast must have been more of a success than the P1121.