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Re: Model recognition contest

Posted: 26 Oct 2007, 19:05
by Techy111
What if one fell off? :fart:

tony

Re: Model recognition contest

Posted: 26 Oct 2007, 19:09
by Garry Russell
Of course...provided they moved two of them around to balance it :roll:

Garry

Re: Model recognition contest

Posted: 26 Oct 2007, 20:23
by Harry Basset
Is it an R7V2 or YC121F? They had very broad 3 bladed props. I thought they had tip tanks which do not appear in the clue pic and I can't place the earlier clue pic which seems to show a fin.

Re: Model recognition contest

Posted: 26 Oct 2007, 20:48
by mjahn
Garry Russell wrote:Is that the Turbo-Prop Super Constellation?

Garry
I'll accept that as CORRECT. The monickers R7V-2, YC-121F, or indeed Queen of the Skies With Knobs On I would have accepted as well. (I'll do both the Navy and the USAF version, with and without tip tanks.)

I'll address some of the questions raised here tomorrow if I may. For today I'll leave you with this screenshot made by Jan Henk Peereboom (and I think he will offer some more on the Flightsim.com screenshot forum in due course). Ssssst. here she comes ...

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Garry, for collecting your prize, please email or PM me your email address. But I gather you may be busy doing other things...

Thank you and very well done, all of you.

Re: Model recognition contest

Posted: 26 Oct 2007, 22:29
by Pringle
mjahn wrote: ...or indeed Queen of the Skies With Knobs On I would have accepted as well....
Ahem, jog on, there is only one queen of the skies round these parts! ;-)
http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpap ... 2_1280.jpg

Re: Model recognition contest

Posted: 26 Oct 2007, 23:53
by RAF_Quantum
I learn something new each day, never knew a turboprop Connie existed. Nice!

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Rgds

John

Re: Model recognition contest

Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 00:45
by DispatchDragon
US Navy had a bunch of them
Rather a nice addition there Manfred looking forward to having a grope of this one


Leif

Re: Model recognition contest

Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 05:35
by Chris Trott
Agreed. The Turbo Connie will be a great addition. Those T34's are "looking the business". ;-)

Re: Model recognition contest

Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 09:28
by FlyTexas
RAF_Quantum wrote:I learn something new each day, never knew a turboprop Connie existed. Nice!

Rgds

John
It's news to me too. I thought the Connie series ended with the "Super G". :$ No wonder it took us so long to guess the aircraft. :lol:

Brian

Re: Model recognition contest

Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 10:45
by mjahn
Hello again all,

I felt the noose tightening around my neck when Chris dropped the name "Constellation" in an early reply. Other respondents sensed that a turboprop variant might be involved.

The second clue clearly wasn't easily recognizable as a wing tip, but it did show part of the letter F (from USAF) and a broken walkway, which was typical of mil Connies.The squarish wing tip itself could easily be associated with a C-117 (though apparently stationed in Germany never saw one). Or a 1649 Starliner, but that had no USAF connections that I know of. Or indeed a Nord 262 as surmised by Brian, but I believe it exists as a model?

Full marks to Harry who was spot on identifying the MATS stripe, but then possibly excluded the Connie because of missing tip tanks. (I understand they were a later addition.)

The Lockheed Constitution -- now that is a plane I was absolutely fascinated with, also the -- don't you laugh now -- XC-70. Which reminds me to ask, is Jens going to build a six-engined Brab?

After the third clue it took Garry hardly 10 minutes to suggest the right solution. The props did trigger some interesting excursions into various turboprop configurations. Incidentally, one of the YC-121Fs was later fitted with Allison engines serving as a testbed for the Electra project, nicknamed "Elation".

Garry says there was a previous model of a YC-121, but I had googled and searched avsim and flightsim and no hits had come up. I have only been with this hobby since 2002, however ...

Leif correctly identified the mighty 15ft Hamilton Standard blades driven by P&W YT-34 engines packing the then enormous power of 5,000 shp. I believe the P&W's were also experimentally fitted to a couple of C-97s and C-124s. But it was a Navy Turbo Connie which established the speed record for prop-driven transport aircraft in 1956 doing 479 mph.

As far as I know the two USAF Turbo Connies went all over the world on various testing and service flights, and what a show stopper they must have been, if anyone was lucky enough to see and HEAR them. Remember the sound of the T-34 engines in the C-133s as they went over en route to Frankfurt or Mildenhall? It certainly made you drop everything... Which remnds me, I am not too clear at present what I am going to use for a soundset.

Tom Gibson's signature bmp is the "laughing Connie" cartoon that also served as a frontispiece to Stephen Piercey's Propliner journal.

The epithet "Queen of the Skies" was used in Air Enthusiast 14, but I agree there's a worthy successor.

In the tryout version of DBS Walk and Follow, the variable viewpoint utility I mentioned, your movements are restricted to 200 miles in the Moscow area. Here is another typical screenshot not normally available from standard FS9 viewpoints.

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Again, thanks to all for contributing,

ATB