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Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 12:13
by DaveB
Hiya DM,

Sir Maxwell Kingston-Upon-Thames famous book 'HS Trident' lists water injection being offered by HS on the Trident 1B as well as the 1E and 1F. However, RR managed to uprate the Spey and that engine was taken up for the 1E/F. It's not an easy thing to nail down but at least some early types must have had it given it's control section on the OHP :think:

What's this about losing a BEA/BA 1-11 panel??? :shock: :poke: :lol:

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 12:23
by Garry Russell
Hi Dave

In case it confuses folk I will just point out the 1F (stretched Trident) was never built.

That was further developed into the 3B

Garry

Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 13:35
by DaveB
Hi Garry,

Yup and likewise the 1B matey.. no sign of a production version anywhere!

I think the 1B was offered to the Americans (as a proposed spec) but doesn't appear to have been taken up :wink:

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 15:02
by Garry Russell
Not heard of a 1B thought it was a 1C typo :redface: :lol:

I do remember lots of talk about the 1F, like BEA demanding a version to a certain spec because the others weren't up to it and when HS met the spec BEA saying it wasn't good enough :huf:

Garry

Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 15:52
by MALTBY D
I've now made the Trident update available from my website.
Only two small fixes have been made since the version released here, so here's a zip that contains those modified files.
Or you could just download the latest PANEL zip from my site.
TRIDENT_PANEL_UPDATE.zip

Fixes made were:-
More accurate looking RMI magnetic indicators VOR1, ADF1 & VOR2 & ADF2 (like Fraser's)
Removed the repeat clicks from the engine starter switch.

DM

Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 20:40
by TobyV
Garry, I think the 1F was actually the 2E before it underwent further changes :think:

Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 20:44
by TobyV
MALTBY D wrote:ARPP was a 1C & this pic shows the W/I unit clearest of the lot.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1007071/L/
It doesn't seem to be the sort of museum where they'd stick one in just to fill a gap. :lol:
Well tbh, its not the museum who would have put that in there... and I wont say any more than that, but you might guess at what I am thinking :-# :-# :wink:

Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 21:10
by Garry Russell
Toby

The 1F was a stretched Trident by 2.8 metres

In the end they used the design improvements on a standard fuse for better performance and BEA wanted the 727 for more capacity. The 1F was stretched as far as it could be (3B) and BEA had to buy that as they could not get authority for the 727.....so in effect the 1F evolved into two types.

Garry

Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 22:40
by TSR2
Here you go guys, from the original broucher.....
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Enjoy! :smile:

Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 23:15
by Garry Russell
Cheers Ben

She looks so clean and smart in those drawings :smile:

Garry