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Re: A Retro Base for 727s
Posted: 15 Nov 2008, 13:15
by DispatchDragon
Ian
Bermuda is the reason that the FAA introduced "island reserves" in the 60s and its still used today. Norfolk or Newport News are about the closest
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Leif
Re: A Retro Base for 727s
Posted: 15 Nov 2008, 13:20
by forthbridge
Re: A Retro Base for 727s
Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 20:18
by speedbird591
Hmmm. It took me less time than I thought it would to set up the AI. Must be all the practise I've had

Here's the first one safely away ...

Whilst number one for landing turns towards the ILS

Not much wrong with the landing - for an AI pilot!
Ian

Re: A Retro Base for 727s
Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 10:43
by petermcleland
Re: A Retro Base for 727s
Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 12:23
by forthbridge
:o :o
What superb shots Peter! I have been mulling over the 727 after seeing Ian's shots - but now you have added some spectacular night images, I can see a purchase coming on!
Re: A Retro Base for 727s
Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 12:44
by petermcleland
forthbridge wrote::o :o
What superb shots Peter! I have been mulling over the 727 after seeing Ian's shots - but now you have added some spectacular night images, I can see a purchase coming on!
Jim,
The DF models of the 727s are superb, but if you purchase them then don't use them for AI...Just contact me and I will let you have my special AI version as a complete download but without the actual models...You would need to copy those in from your purchase.
Here are three shots at Mcleland Field with more light:-
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Re: A Retro Base for 727s
Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 16:53
by petermcleland
Re: A Retro Base for 727s
Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 17:48
by speedbird591
The 727 collection looks exquisite, Peter. Amazingly detailed and a wonderful collection of classic liveries, although I was rather hoping to see an Alaska Airlines one :-( You can feel the chill coming off the mountains in those last shots and I don't suppose your crews are ecstatic about having to spend a night in the Windy City before they get their golf break

At least the aircraft look at home in Bermuda.
Just to clarify, Jim, the 727 I'm using (Eastern and Delta in the first two sets of screenshots) is the freeware Vistaliner by Erick Cantu and available from Virtual Eastern Airlines, with plenty of paints and a couple of panels available on Avsim. My last few shots are all low poly AI aircraft best viewed at a distance as background traffic.
Ian

Re: A Retro Base for 727s
Posted: 18 Nov 2008, 13:43
by petermcleland
speedbird591 wrote:The 727 collection looks exquisite, Peter. Amazingly detailed and a wonderful collection of classic liveries, although I was rather hoping to see an Alaska Airlines one :-( You can feel the chill coming off the mountains in those last shots and I don't suppose your crews are ecstatic about having to spend a night in the Windy City before they get their golf break

At least the aircraft look at home in Bermuda.
Well Ian, my base home airline is Alaska Airlines so I just use their B737s with some of the fancy liveries that they have used in the past
Here is a bit of B727 stuff which might be of interest...
This video ( a zip file download of about 13 to 15 minutes) shows the dismantling of the B727 wing during the landing approach. You can double click the zip file and then run the video from the WinZip window. It plays in Windows Media Player at size 1280x720.
When the video starts concentrate on the leading edge...Then when the outer droop is deployed, watch both leading and trailing edge. Then when the whole leading edge stuff is deployed concentrate on the trailing edge...The final flap selection is made as the long pontoon appears above the fuselage and that is under 300 feet. At touchdown watch the lift dump deploy.
In real life I did quite a few passenger trips in these and liked to watch the wing activity at various stages of flight...That bit when the lift dump deploys on touchdown is a bit of a shock as you can then see right through the gaping holes in the wing to the runway rushing past below!
The weather was smooth for this flight...If it had been bumpy you would have seen that the flight prior to flap selection, is controlled in roll, solely by the tiny inboard ailerons and then when the flaps start to come down the outboard ailerons are unlocked and start to work along with the inboard ones...If it is really rough then some spoileron activity might be seen on the down going wing. All this is modelled correctly in this superb Dreamfleet model.
http://www.petermcleland.com/video/B727Wing720.zip
Please do not bother with this if you do not have Broadband :flying:
Re: A Retro Base for 727s
Posted: 18 Nov 2008, 20:47
by speedbird591
I have to say that the DF model really does look exquisite and the attention to detail is painstaking. I watched the video a couple of times and was impressed at the intricacy of the flap system on the
real aircraft as well as it being modelled so carefully.
I did a quick comparison with the Vistaliners flap detail and was impressed to see that it's not a million miles behind. The movements seem about the same but I haven't watched it in flight for aileron and spoileron activity.
Ian