Classic British Flight Sim

Hi Allan,

Yes.. DEBUG is still very much to the fore at the mo unfortunately. Ben will get to the bottom of it soon I'm sure

The Harrier incident happened too far away from me to have seen, heard or even shoot it down though we did get (what the daughter described as a Tornado - and she's usually pretty good!) fly over very low and very fast this afternoon. The poor Labrador was on the patio sunning herself at the time and ran in sharpish mit tail tucked under!! I'm tempted to go to RIAT this year.. not least of all as it's the closest show to where I live.. but I can't really be bothered. Every couple of years is enough for me

Here's hoping this doesn't debug!! :roll:

ATB

DaveB :tab:

having opened the bbc article on the crash, i would like to know what was the training course being held in the pub. ( beer tasting ). i remember many moon's ago a documentry about aircraft crashes in that area of the world. one was involving a harrier.
i can't remember the full details, all they would say was it followed the path of an ancient lay line. is there other forces out there.

as for beer, when i did take the odd tipple or to was good old black sheep or if you went to the other pub in kettlewell was black bull. :dance:

DaveB wrote:Hi Allan,

we did get (what the daughter described as a Tornado - and she's usually pretty good!) fly over very low and very fast this afternoon.

DaveB :tab:

Not sure where you live Dave but me and a mate drove down to the Tank Museum at Bovington yesterday and a Tornado pilot looked to be having fun as we passed Boscombe Down.

Scared all the tourists at Stonehenge silly I think...

TobyV wrote:What with ex-RAF GR7/GR9s (how many have been upgraded so far) being redeployed with the Navy and one or two in recent memory lost in accidents, presumably we are a bit short on airframes now?

To be fair, we've not lost too many airframes in the past few years, and the first RN Harrier GR Sqn was effectively just a "numberplate" replacement of 3(F) Sqn (now of Typhoon fame)... I expect eventually the 4 Harrier Sqns will just use a "pool" of jets at Cottesmore...

AlexP wrote:There might even be the possibility that it was a reoccurrence of the same fault?

Alex

psstt...word on the street is the engine stopped working after one of those bird-engine intake interface scenarios, and as the Harrier has the glide ratio of a brick, I'd say it was pretty lucky to arrive away from civilisation

ttfn

Pete

Its those damn frozen chickens again, someone should withdraw their C. of A. :huf:


Edit - more seriously, I remember an occasion at the Shoreham airshow a year or two back when the two Harriers about to display made an emergency landing shortly after takeoff when one encountered some birds that were either ingested (into the very large intakes!) or struck part of the airframe. Two perfect landings were excuted, all fire tenders on standby if need be but it all worked so well that it wasnt even clear which of the two aircraft was affected.

I don't know.............
All they have to do is leave the engine intake blanks in place.............

It's not rocket science.

I must admit when I had alook at the crash and smash scrap books at St Athan I saw a tonne of harrier incidents. Quite suprised actually.

Some of the 'highest-tech' and dare i use the word on here 'coolest' military aircraft actually have quite a high attrition rate. Certainly lots of original (AV-8A/AV-8S/GR.1/GR.3/FRS.1 etc) Harriers were lost in accidents and also things like the Lockheed F-117 fall out of hte sky more often than you would have thought. With the Harrier its mainly engine usually intake (of birds or foreign materiel) or nozzle (something going awry in the hover or transition) thats the cause. I think the RN did manage to lose one off the end of the runway and into a lake somewhere though didnt they? :redface:

AlexP wrote:As this was to be a display aircraft at Fairford, I wonder if it’s the same one that went at U/S at Waddington recently?

It had to return to land immediately after take off. There might even be the possibility that it was a reoccurrence of the same fault?

Alex

From what I read the Waddington unservicability sounded like a nav kit problem - nothing that would cause an aeroplane to fall out of the sky very rapidly...