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Re: bac 111 engine switch off

Posted: 02 Jun 2008, 19:42
by bigred1970
thanks for the information on those textures. I just dowloaded the american registered one and installed it.

now I can fly wherever I want without having to purloin the airlines or governments kit. :P

Re: bac 111 engine switch off

Posted: 05 Jun 2008, 15:19
by crisso
Politely back on topic,

Whilst I usually use the top temp switches for most take-offs - I always switch them off when well established in the climb (say above 5-6,000') since by then you normally can't overheat the engines, as well as achieving a bit more thrust performance.

Re: bac 111 engine switch off

Posted: 05 Jun 2008, 17:35
by DaveB
That's not a bad idea crisso ;-)

Personally.. I don't use them at all. Were they visible on the 2D panel.. perhaps I might but as they're not.. I don't :) Just as easy to keep your eye on the needles/lamps to keep the engines out of the red but each to their own ;-)

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Re: bac 111 engine switch off

Posted: 05 Jun 2008, 18:00
by bigred1970
another question. how long did most crews keep the engines in the Yellow part of the tempature range after they took off.

I ask because I have been throttleing back to the the maximum continous tempeture (the green) as soon as I felt safe to do so.

the problem is that on a real hot day this gives you very poor clime performace ( like less then 500fpm) untill the air temp drops enough that you can get the rpms over 90% and still keep the temp in the green.

did real aircrews keep in in the yellow longer in these conditions so they could get some alltitude?

I am sure people around the airports didn't like a loud jet screaming over at low altitude. :$

Re: bac 111 engine switch off

Posted: 05 Jun 2008, 18:11
by Garry Russell
The two flights I had in a One-Eleven the engines were throttles back after take off for noise abatement

The climb was much reduced for a bit then after speed built up it was recommenced, but they didn't usually climb continuously.

They climbed in stages due to air traffic control.

Garry

Re: bac 111 engine switch off

Posted: 05 Jun 2008, 18:19
by DaveB
Hi BR.. :)

Well mate.. water injection was added for just that scenario.. hot and high so using the top temp switches would be the order of the day. I rarely fly the 1-11 in that sort of environment so the option is wasted on me anyway :lol: I have the manual on this pc but no pdf reader so can't give exact figures but I can't see you doing any damage by keeping the engines in the yellow for as long as necessary. Were takeoff performance to be an issue, you'd use watermeth anyway until established in the climb ;-)

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Re: bac 111 engine switch off

Posted: 05 Jun 2008, 23:15
by bigred1970
thanks for the information. I definatly am using both the top temp and Watermeth. for example, as I type this the tempature outside is 33C. I am betting that. without top temp and watermeth, I would probably not be able to the loaded aircraft off the ground from the 10000ft runway, and definatly not from the 7000 foot one. :o with them, it is still interesting. as I am burying the throttles and letting the top temp and watter meth do its thing and still using most of the runway. :$

Re: bac 111 engine switch off

Posted: 05 Jun 2008, 23:21
by Tarasdad
I haven't run into any situations where I needed wather/meth injection - yet. Top temp has been a great help, but that's all so far.

Garry, I love the second (white/blue/gold) and fourth (white/black/tan/yellow) liveries!

Re: bac 111 engine switch off

Posted: 05 Jun 2008, 23:34
by Garry Russell
The yellow/Gold was Air Hanson and was very short lived...possible only one flight like that.... became RP-C1 in the same livery

The blue one C5-LKI is the same aircraft as the one in Libyan Arab (5A-DDQ)..was not owned by the ailine.

N1543 was Braniff and was retained by them as a hack and also chartered out..it was called Little Precious

G-BGTU in that Turbo Union livery to me always looked Chinese.

The Green and Orange is the Stewart Lumber corporate jet. Later it was overall metallic bottle green. :$

It has eyebrows painted on it :$ :$