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Re: AS B-24 first pics...
Posted: 10 Apr 2008, 23:06
by Trev Clark
Didnt RAF coastal command operate this for a bit???
Coastal operated the B24 for at least 3 years in addition to the aircrafts bombing roles with the RAF in Italy (from N.Africa at first) and in the Far East (from India) as well. Plenty of scope for re-paints!
Re: AS B-24 first pics...
Posted: 10 Apr 2008, 23:36
by Garry Russell
BOAC used them as well
Garry
Re: AS B-24 first pics...
Posted: 11 Apr 2008, 09:28
by Nigel Edwards
120 Squadron used Liberators Mks 1-8 from RAF Aldergrove, RAF Ballykelly, RAF Nutts Corner and Reykjavik flying against U-boats in the North Atlantic. It was the top-scoring anti-submarine Sqn of WW2 with 16 confirmed kills and shares in 3 more.
Best wishes
Nige
Re: AS B-24 first pics...
Posted: 11 Apr 2008, 23:15
by Chris Trott
d0mokun wrote:Ahar, I read your post wrong. My apologies.
But the idea strill remains- I'm never going to kill anyone for pointing out that my work is wrong. Not anymore anyway lol..
I've just rebuilt the flaps on the B-24. Why is it always at the 11th hour that a much needed photo crops up? Argh.
BR
Dan.
Dan, I would think my posts concerning the subject in the Alpha forums would have rid you of all belief to the contrary in my case...
I still do hope you guys have time to do the LB-30/B-24A at some point and/or at least a model for Ol' 927 (D-model forward fuse, A-model nose & cockpit, PBY-cowls, A-model tail) so we have accurate models of the 2 remaining flyable B-24s in the world ("Witchcraft", a stock B-24J and "Ol' 927", the modified B-24A/LB-30).
Re: AS B-24 first pics...
Posted: 11 Apr 2008, 23:19
by Chris Trott
Garry Russell wrote:BOAC used them as well
Garry
Yes, but the BOAC aircraft LB-30 Liberator Expresses though instead of standard B-24/LB-30s with the cargo modifications like AM927 received (including the round nacelles), so there is another reason to do an AM927/Ol' 927 model.

Re: AS B-24 first pics...
Posted: 11 Apr 2008, 23:25
by Garry Russell
Hi Chris
I don't know the exact type but they were a transport version I think....square window I seem to ring a bell
I was referring to general type in British use rather that that particular mark .
The BOAC aircraft were very early machines.
Garry
Re: AS B-24 first pics...
Posted: 11 Apr 2008, 23:29
by Chris Trott
Sorry, I edited my reply while you were replying. The BOAC machines were indeed LB-30 Liberator Expresses with the D-model fuselage extension, solid nose, and PBY cowlings that AM927 (now "Old '927") received when she was convered from a B-24A/Liberator I which are different than the C-87 Liberator Expresses built for the USAAC because those were purpose built as transports while all of the BOAC aircraft were converted after service with Coastal Command.
Re: AS B-24 first pics...
Posted: 11 Apr 2008, 23:32
by Garry Russell
Cheers Chris
I don't know the in's and out but it would be a nice subject....Am I imagining it or was there a VIP Transport for Churchill but he didn't use it???
Garry
Re: AS B-24 first pics...
Posted: 11 Apr 2008, 23:39
by Chris Trott
Yes, there were 24 C-87s and C-87As were transferred to the RAF as Liberator VII's after the USAAC began receiving the C-54 (DC-4). The difference between the C-87 and C-87A was that the C-87 had a hinging nose for loading cargo and a sparse cargo hold running under the cockpit floor to the aft of the plane (under the wing spar) and the C-87A was fitted with a non-hinged nose and VIP seating behind the wing. It was one of the C-87As that PM Churchill used as a personal transport.
The USAAC moved their C-87s out of mainline use because of a serious fuel fire problem where fuel lines would break in the crew area and start fires in addition to poor handling in icing conditions. The problem was never fully cured, however the aircraft like AM927 and the BOAC aircraft received constant upgrades and the problems were eventually abated enough not to be major issue.
Re: AS B-24 first pics...
Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 03:52
by PhilipsCDRW
The Liberator served in every theatre in WW2, didn't it? It's a shame it never made it into the Il-2 sim...