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Re: Embraer ERJ 195 is underway...
Posted: 29 Oct 2007, 16:23
by Pielstick
tonymadge wrote:I think that before they sell a product it should be right and without glaring issues like this tail, they should have a beta team to look at these things .. It is ok if it is freeware but asking for money then selling this is unacceptable in my opinion.
Well, people can always vote with their wallets. I'll admit when I first saw this aircraft on Simmarket it piqued my interest, something different to the usual Airbus and Boeing types. However, after looking at the screenshots for about 30 seconds it became clear this isn't really worth the money in my opinion. The two most important features of an aircraft for me are the panel and flight dynamics. Looking at the screenshots of the panel I noticed it looks very similar to a freeware panel released some time ago (and I wasn't too keen on that panel anyway). I don't know about the flight dynamics but if the rehashed freeware panel is anything to go by then I wouldn't expect much. I also get a little suspicious of items on Simmarket where they don't provide high res screenshots so you can examine the panel, etc in detail
If people want to pay for this then more power to them, I'm not going to stop them enjoying themselves. I recently got lambasted on the Avsim forum for admitting to buying the new Airbus Volume 2 from Wilco. People seem to get very irate about some addons, but nobody is forcing them to buy this stuff, and if someone is actually enjoying flying them, why be a killjoy?

Re: Embraer ERJ 195 is underway...
Posted: 30 Oct 2007, 10:15
by tonymadge
your right, its buyers chioce. I recall buying commuter airliners, it was so naff I laughed..until I realised I had paid for it... thank goodness for Ebay

Re: Embraer ERJ 195 is underway...
Posted: 30 Oct 2007, 10:32
by Garry Russell
The trouble with payware is it can't be returned and refunded like taking it back to the shop.
So it has even more of a duty to be right before purchase.
You may well see shape errors before but not other issues like FDE.
Garry
Re: Embraer ERJ 195 is underway...
Posted: 30 Oct 2007, 10:38
by tonymadge
yes your right Garry, best make sure that 170 is correct... I will have to check it over

will chat later today ;-)
Re: Embraer ERJ 195 is underway...
Posted: 30 Oct 2007, 10:40
by Garry Russell
I will do all I can to get the 170 right.
But as a mark of good faith I will give anyone not satisfied a full refund :roll:
Garry
Re: Embraer ERJ 195 is underway...
Posted: 30 Oct 2007, 12:34
by Pielstick
Garry Russell wrote:The trouble with payware is it can't be returned and refunded like taking it back to the shop.
Very true. The international nature of the internet means we aren't protected by UK retail laws if we purchase from a foreign website.
It isn't helped by the fact that a lot of payware developers/distributors flat refuse to refund customers. Having said that, Flight One have an excellent 30 day no fuss refund policy on any product purchased through their wrapper programme. I took advantage of it last year when I purchased the Sky Unlimited Hurricane package and found it not really to my liking... a quick message to them via their customer support and a few days later my credit card was refunded. No hassles, no fuss.
Then of course if you feel you have been turned over you can always phone up your credit card company and get them to do a chargeback...
Re: Embraer ERJ 195 is underway...
Posted: 30 Oct 2007, 16:25
by Nigel H-J
Hi Andreas, brilliant pics especially the airport scenery.
Had a look around the web but cannot find UK 2000-Airports by Garry Simmons, if you or anyone else are able to supply a link to that I would be grateful.
Regards
Nigel
Re: Embraer ERJ 195 is underway...
Posted: 30 Oct 2007, 16:34
by tonymadge
http://www.uk2000scenery.com/index.html
look at his new extreme stuff, its very good ( Gary Summons btw)
Re: Embraer ERJ 195 is underway...
Posted: 30 Oct 2007, 16:52
by Nigel H-J
Thanks Tony, appreciated.
Regards Nigel.