[rant] CS 757| Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Post by **DaveB** » 04 Mar 2007, 14:08

Ah.. there are 4 as I understand it Ian. Cheapskates like us only get parts 1 and 2.. the slightly more serious stuff being in 3 and 4, supplied with BlockF :shock:

Never mind. I think we've all learned a lesson here

ATB

DaveB :tab:

ianhind · Post by **ianhind** » 04 Mar 2007, 14:51

Ah yes and Parts 1 and 2 are available at

http://www.captainsim.com/products/b757/manual.html

So what is Block F?

Edit: from what I can see at CaptainSim, it has not been released yet :tuttut:

Post by **DaveB** » 04 Mar 2007, 15:24

That's how I read it too Ian!! :roll:

This may seem a very simplistic attitude but to my way of thinking.. CS wanted the 757 released when the model was far from finished. There is another version (or was) in the form of BlockA and users of this version can upgrade to BlockB whereupon they'll receive a refund of either $9.99 or $19.99.. whatever it was they paid :think: Why anyone would want to upgrade to a version that remains 'incomplete' is beyond me but there you go.
I may be wrong here but the next upgrade path is for Block 300 which, as far as I can tell, is the 757-300 version. Once more.. another payment thank you very much. :shock: Yet another one for the collection is Block Freighter.. obvious what this is.

So.. what do we have.
Block A is now gone
Block B is the BASE Standard model
Block 300 is listed as 757-300 Expansion Model
Block Freighter is listed as 757 Freighter Expansion Model

Separate to the above but which work with all comes..
Block C.. ACE utility
Block D.. Custom Flight Model (supports advanced systems) :think:
Block E.. Custom Soundset
Block F.. Advanced Systems Programming.

Blocks D and F are not yet released but will.. like the other bits, cost. The custom flight model will apparently mean that it's no longer a default 737 in different clothes and 'Advanced Systems Programming' means that all the buttons and knobs that don't work at the moment will work!! :roll: Oh.. and you'll then get a full manual too!

I can't see if you need Block B in order to make Block300 and BlockFreighter work but as for the rest.. I don't think I've ever seen such a blatant excuse to get money out of the end user. Even if you don't need Block B in order to make 300 or Freighter work, you will have to buy one or all of the other bits if you want the model to be authentic and fully functional. The more I read about it, the more I wish I could send a brace of Tridents over (the 'Go Bang' variety) :axe:

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Callum · Post by **Callum** » 04 Mar 2007, 15:29

Don't worry, I imagine this useless system will be phased out soon enough as the amount of complaints they'll have been getting, if not sympathetic for the users, their email inboxes will be getting a tad stuffy and I imagine they'll call it a day.

They will get much more money by just getting you to pay for the package all in one go - this way they appear to loose customers before they've even bought the full thing!

Heavy on framerates, incorrect models, bad FDEs.. the only people who I think are good are the texture artists!

gevers1 · Post by **gevers1** » 04 Mar 2007, 15:52

Well, if someone would post me part 3 & 4 of the manuals, I'll make a donation to the charity of their choice, rather than giving CS anymore of my hard earned $'s.

ianhind · Post by **ianhind** » 04 Mar 2007, 16:04

See below for 2nd attempt at explanation

Post by **DaveB** » 04 Mar 2007, 17:17

That's clear as mud Ian and another nail in the CS coffin :roll:

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Tweek · Post by **Tweek** » 04 Mar 2007, 18:13

It's a shame to read all this about Captain Sim, as they've produced some cracking addons in the past. Their F-104 is a beauty.

Saying that, I'm not into airliners as such, so I'm not after the in-depth systems that you'd expect from a payware product.

ianhind · Post by **ianhind** » 04 Mar 2007, 18:30

DaveB

Ok, I'll try again. CS757 manual number 1 indicates at the beginning who gets what:

Part I Userâ€™s Manual - Comes with Block B or Block 300

Part II Aircraft - Comes with Block B only

Part III Normal Procedures - Comes with Block F only

Part IV Flight Characteristics and Performance Data - Comes with Block D only

Since Blocks D/F have not been released, no one has the FMC and therefore do not need the manual. :-({|=

petermcleland · Post by **petermcleland** » 04 Mar 2007, 19:46

Well I don't have a single CS product...And, after reading this thread, I'm not likely to do anything to change that