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Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 14:05
by ianhind
"U.S. Air Force to destroy entire fleet of British-made Firefly training planes with deadly history"
Nice bit of unbiased and considered reporting :tuttut:
I will have to warn a colleague of mine who bought one (unintentionally?) from the RAF. He put in a low bid for the auction and won! The man from the RAF rang up and wanted to know when he could collect it.
http://www.btinternet.com/~calypsomedia ... ton/album/
Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 14:17
by AndyG
JimCooper wrote:3 Crashes, 6 killed, all pilot error!!
Politics grounded the fleet.
Regards
Jim
Surely not Jim, I can't imagine the USA doing such a thing! And as for the suggestion that any USAF pilot would ever make an error!
I still can't quite believe that the EH-101 got the Marine One contract, AgustaWestland must employ better lobbyists than Sikorsky!!
AndyG
Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 22:17
by DispatchDragon
Its really simple
KCOS - Colorado Springs where the USAF Academy is - elevation
6187 amsl - average summer temp - 34C - Orginally the airforce academy
used the T41 (Cessna 172 with upgraded engine in 2 seat configuration)
for that very reason - So toss in a 200 pound instructor and a 200 pound student on a 34C day - AND the fact that the USAF uses low time instructors
and you have a recipe for accidents, the mere fact that the rate is so low
surprises me - maybe if they had operated the Firefly at somewhere closer to sea level -the problems would not have appeared.
Leif
Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 23:17
by Hot_Charlie
DispatchDragon wrote:Its really simple
KCOS - Colorado Springs where the USAF Academy is - elevation
6187 amsl - average summer temp - 34C - Orginally the airforce academy
used the T41 (Cessna 172 with upgraded engine in 2 seat configuration)
for that very reason - So toss in a 200 pound instructor and a 200 pound student on a 34C day - AND the fact that the USAF uses low time instructors
and you have a recipe for accidents, the mere fact that the rate is so low
surprises me - maybe if they had operated the Firefly at somewhere closer to sea level -the problems would not have appeared.
Leif
and yet the relatives were happy to sue Slingsby for what was effectively the USAFs negligence/ineptitude. :roll:
Posted: 01 Oct 2006, 22:00
by Dyl Roberts
Hi Guy's
Just a quick update on the T67M, thought I'd share some WIP shots with You.....
Still a Huge ammount of work to do on it, but it's comming along Niceley!!
Prop Annimation Next......
Posted: 01 Oct 2006, 22:02
by DaveB
That's looking really nice Dyl. I'm not normally one for this sort of aircraft but I'm warming to it nicely
ATB
DaveB :tab:
Posted: 01 Oct 2006, 22:21
by Dyl Roberts
Hi Dave,
It's getting there, slowly ...........
I know this little plane isn't most peoples cup of tea, but it's a starting point for My modeling learning curve!!
I'll keep posting WIP shots when there's more to show!
Cheers.....
Posted: 02 Oct 2006, 00:08
by DaveB
'Getting there slowly' and 'Learning Curve' are two key points you made there Dyl. I appreciate (as you do) folk's enquiries can innocently put pressure on where none is required. The point is.. it will come when it's done and not before
ATB
DaveB :tab:
Posted: 02 Oct 2006, 00:20
by Garry Russell
That's coming on nicely Dyl and the type is one of those nice little recreational types.
As a change to pounding the airways of flying through the valley in a fast jet....it nice to have something like that to fly around quietly and admire any scenery that has been added on
Well done on that.
ATB
Garry
