VC10 Autoland

Post by **DaveB** » 05 Sep 2006, 14:42

I think it's b1oody unfair that the Viscount and Vanguard don't have autoland too as my landing attrition would improve many fold!!

ATB

DaveB :tab:

airboatr · Post by **airboatr** » 05 Sep 2006, 16:58

well DOne Toby!
excellent work on the video. thanks for the dedication
to show it can be done with a bit of encouragement
and Peters Lessons.

Joe

DanKH · Post by **DanKH** » 06 Sep 2006, 09:09

Ahem...actually it's Davids lessons on this one....

Post by **Garry Russell** » 06 Sep 2006, 09:19

DaveB wrote:I think it's b1oody unfair that the Viscount and Vanguard don't have autoland too as my landing attrition would improve many fold!!

ATB

DaveB :tab:

I get auto land with those Dave

..........often they go down to the ground on their own without my help :think:

I think though I'm supposed to be somewhere near an airport when I do that :redface:

So the Trident and VC 10 have the edge

Another great job there Toby........

I often find with your vids that watching them make me want to go straight there and try it for myself.

Certainly spark interest

Garry

bigred1970 · Post by **bigred1970** » 06 Sep 2006, 11:39

heh I just wish that the trident had auto takeoff,
too bad my home airports longest runway is "only" 10,000 feet. sigh maybe when the temp goes down this fall I will get one off the ground without frying the engines..... :redface:

<---- oooh meteor. sweet :dance:

Post by **Garry Russell** » 06 Sep 2006, 11:48

Hi Big Red

Just reduce the fuel to what's needed, plus reserves and the payload

With power on the brakes and approach flap with a good portion of nose up trim I can get her off in half-three quarters of a 4,800ft runway :shock:

Powering into the climb as well, once airborne you have to progressively reduce the trim to keep the nose below 30 degrees. And that includes the 3B

Fun :dance:

In real life Tridents operated on occasion from Jersey CI even when it was shorter. I think the run is about 6,800 of so....Toby will know., and of course Peter used to fly them.

Garry

bigred1970 · Post by **bigred1970** » 06 Sep 2006, 11:58

will have to try that,

but then I will have to find something else to complain about :think:

Post by **Garry Russell** » 06 Sep 2006, 12:05

bigred1970 wrote:will have to try that,

but then I will have to find something else to complain about :think:

Stick arround..something will turn up......very soon

Garry

airboatr · Post by **airboatr** » 06 Sep 2006, 20:27

DanKH wrote:Ahem...actually it's Davids lessons on this one....

Sory then . I meant no discredit anyone

But truth be told they were Toby's instructions
we have a multisession using FS and voice com over the internet
we took off from heathrow and then returned for a auto landing
he on one runway me on the other
He was the voice in my head talking me through it
and Peters name was the one I remember him mentioning
as to the source of instruction, he may have mentioned
Davids name as well , I may have forgotten that
...............

well I can't be expected to remember every thing
I was attempting a auto land in a big ass jet I had'nt had time
in for awhile and I had never used any sort of auto land
control , ever
but I did it , first try , thatnks to Toby

Joe

PS I have one other thing to be thankfull for.

"God takes care of dummies and babies"

TobyV · Post by **TobyV** » 06 Sep 2006, 21:15

Hi chaps... yes a very entertaining multiplayer flying session with Joe the other day, culminating in attempted simultaneous parallel autoland in VC10s at LHR. The pic above shows both of us in G-ASIX, me in the BCal livery, Joe in BUA.

I havent yet found an actual Autoland tutorial for the VC10, so I just used what I gleaned from Peter's one for the Trident with DB's suggestions for getting the speed right and a bit of figuring out how the systems worked and voila...

I actually reckon the VC10 is easier to autoland than the Trident... the A/P seems simpler to operate.

Toby