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Posted: 04 Sep 2006, 12:01
by TobyV
speedbird591 wrote:More please
After I landed the Trident, I tried DM's VC10, XX914/G-ATDJ (The RAE's own one) and it sort of managed it but it had quite a nose down attitude on approach and even after the flare still managedto touch down on the nose wheel first :redface: I think that presumably I was too fast and incorrectly trimmed, but since theres no equivalent Peter McL manual, it was a bit of a case of "well lets trying pressing this switch and coming in at this speed"! I think its possible that the VC10 actually needs a lower speed since its wing was optimised for short takeoffs and landings whereas the Trident wing is more a "low drag at cruise" design which is more of a handful at low speed. If I can get it to work as its supposed to, I'll try posting that too

Posted: 04 Sep 2006, 12:06
by DaveB
Hi Toby,
Are there not instructions on how to operate the AP in DM's readme :think: Speedwise, the V-chart on the LH side of the panel should give you reasonably accurate VaT speeds mate
ATB
DaveB :tab:
Posted: 04 Sep 2006, 12:15
by TobyV
Ok Dave, thanks... looks like I have some RTFMing to do!
Posted: 04 Sep 2006, 12:46
by speedbird591
I do quite a few autolands in the VC10 and it works perfectly. Don't forget to click the V-chart to update it before taking the VaT speed. Then put the VaT speed into the autothrottle in plenty of time. And also remember to select 'flare' on the a/p mode switch at about 800 feet. Every landing a pitter-patter.
And don't forget to make a video afterwards
Ian
Posted: 04 Sep 2006, 13:46
by TobyV
Done

See other thread.
Posted: 04 Sep 2006, 15:27
by Effoh
Excellent video Toby - well done, Sir!
Rgds,
Colin
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 10:28
by speedbird591
Toby - I've enjoyed following your autoland adventures in the Trident and VC10 and especially the videos. Before you move on to something else, I want to make sure you've done Peter's Trident tutorial at LHR in Cat IIIb visibility. It's called simply Trident Tutorial CatIIIb and starts on Rwy 09R and leads you through a circuit back to 09R. But of course the visibility is 100 metres so you are completely on instruments from lift off until you cross the threshold on landing. It's awesome and it's a fantastic feeling when (if?

) you see the runway lights. You may already have done it, but if not I think you'll really enjoy it

Ian
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 11:49
by DaveB
That's a lovely shot Ian
ATB
DaveB :tab:
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 12:07
by TobyV
I'll have to give a go in 'ZK!
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 15:01
by speedbird591
Thanks, Dave. I thought it was quite atmospheric (literally

).
Toby - I've just done that flight again and I have to apologise. It isn't from Rwy 09 it's from Rwy 27. I hope you haven't gone without checking, otherwise you're probably over Amsterdam in zero visibility with no fuel :sad:
Tragic, but it just goes to show that in aviation you shouldn't trust what anybody tells you
Ian