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Hi John

There is actually a rapid start function like the 748 on the new panel, which should get things up and running to the condition as Dave describes. :smile:

It does seem daunting at first :worried: , but once you get to know what to do and when to do it, it becomes so routing it happens almost without thought :dance: .

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Fraser/Rick,

I don't know if it can be fixed just within the panel (it's probably a model issue), but I've noticed a small problem with in-flight shutdown of no.1 engine: the door opens and the airstairs deploy!

I think Rick put the doors in a couple of years ago and tied their deployment to engine shutdown, but it happens automatically whether or not the aircraft is in flight or on the ground. It appears to be keyed just to no.1 engine, so the obvious answer is to (a) recognise the superb MTBF of the RR Dart or (b) fail No.2, 3 or 4. However, for the next model revision, it might be worthwhile to cut the automatic link.

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Hiya Kevin,

This little tinker is Rick's domain really and just shows how old the Viscount is!! Rick made it with FSDS2 and not a later version either so the fact we're all flying it today is testimony to how good the original was :wink: I'm not sure if the original had opening doors or airstairs but he did tweak it so that this happened. Unfortunately, that version of FSDS wouldn't allow such posh things as can be achieved today so linking it to engine shutdown was a reasonable compromise. However, I agree it does look odd (depending which engines you shutdown.. the Vanguard suffers the same too) and while I'm sure this is noted for future updates, it's not worth addressing until that time comes :wink:

I had an engine failure while flying the Vanguard online a couple of weeks ago (No.4) and after landing, thought I'd be clever and shut No1 down to make taxying easier. All was fine until I looked outside and found the airstairs dragging along the runway :shock: :lol:

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Hi Kevin

That problem was fixed a long time ago

This doesn't happen on the latest model.

The front door opens with #1 and back with #2 when the engoine is off and the lights off.

As long as the lights are on the doors remain closed

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Ah.. note I didn't mention doors opening on the Vanguard.. just airstairs deploying!! :smile: I have hard disc's full of latest versions here so surely they can't ALL be wrong :lol:

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Ah yes Vanguard

That is still with the airstairs deploying, but never really notice as Vanguards taxy on all fours and it was watching on the ground that showed it up.

It showed on the VIscount whne shutting down thw outers after landing.


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Post by Kevin »

Thanks Dave and Garry :smile:

One question - what's the date of the latest .mdl file for the Viscount 800?
I have 'FSDS Vickers Viscount 800.mdl' dated 1st Sept 2004; Rick's site has a couple with 2002 dates but I don't know where I can get a .mdl file with a later date than the one I already have.

BTW, the file I have does what you say - no deployment with lights-on - so it may be the latest.

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Hi Kevin

My V800 model is 09/09/2004

the model config is 25/08/2002

These were downloaded from Ricks site

With the lights on the doors are shut.


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DaveB wrote:
They would be the two choices mate.. one for the 802/806 and the 810 for that and all after :wink: To be honest, if you start with engines running and fuel in all 4 tanks and don't go high enough to get icing (already sounds a lot doesn't it).. you can get away with flying it straight out of the box.. this applies to both panel versions.
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The prob with the tanks was only highlighted when we started flying them in the VA which starts you from cold. For the majority of the flights, no fuel is loaded into the outer tanks so in order to start (to get engines 1 and 4 to start that is).. inter engine cocks have to be open, outer tank pumps have to be off and that's it. No such problems with fuel in the outboard tanks :wink:
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Yes, that's the two - and for my setup one worked perfectly and the other had all soert of tricks up its sleeve to spoil my day. But I think you have probably summarised my problem without realising it. My default flight starts with everything shut down because that's the way I like to do things and I suspect there is something in the panel that doesn't agree with my non-standard default startup. Still, I'm quite happy using the other one, no need to for me to be picky.

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Post by Chris Trott »

Cold and Dark shouldn't cause a problem as that's how my setup is.

I went into FS booted up the default C172 and flight, moved to my home airport, shutdown the engine, turned everything off, and then saved it. I then set the saved flight as my default and haven't had any issues since. I have also found that as long as the C172 is my default aircraft for the default flight, I don't have to fully boot FS before I load another plane as some authors say to do.

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