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Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 01:48
by airboatr
Thank you very much my constant running friend :wink:
For the rebuttal on the Panasonic
I have read a number of reviews lately (in the market myself)
and the Panasonic has had bad reviews in that department
but I was under the impression that it was at the
fastest settings of the camera where the noise starts
Which I have found to be the norm in digital when it comes to low
Light
Anyways I’m not trying to market this particular camera
It was just a suggestion
Sony Nikon Canon and a few others ,make there own version
Of what Panasonic has offered in this price range
Which is IMHO is the root of Andys question
How much bang can I get for my buck
To put the name calling aside
And talk just of the important features
Image sensor
Although we not using film the same rule applies
The bigger the sensor (film) the better the reproduction To paper
35mm compared to the Large format film 8x10 in.,…….. no comparison
The lens sharpness ……(and there’s a fight out there about being too sharp)
This is a price setter here
Get the widest range you can And macro is really nice for the
close ups in a tight fit or just for the detail
The speed of the lens……. 2.8 is pretty sexy
Good for low light and it will give you a better depth of field
(but remember the saying that the center of the lens is the sharpest
So f 6.7 or f 8 is preferred when ever you can
The speed and power of the processor and the buffer size (rapid or continuous shooting)
(which Is why for some stuff I use film)
Film Captures the image when light waves burn
thru the silver-halide crystals coated on the plastic film strip
……….(it’s much more complex obviously)
Digital has to (in short) think about it
And most ,including my 3000.00 US Canon D30
Don’t do it as well in low light and the Hot spots around the source
of Light like lamps in the house or highly reflective surfaces
Always was disappointed with that
It’s on board light source , Flash
How close it is to the lens……….. the father the better
Less chance for the added light to be reflected back into the camera
Or off the retina in the eye resulting in pictures of people
With demon eyes
Some digitals have a hot shoe in the top to allow the use of
Off camera flash (really helpful in unlit areas in cockpits and such.
(the vivatar 283 and 285hv were the flash to have back in the day
Of .,F8 and be there
The shutter speed
Just try to get the widest range
1/2000 is sufficient but faster is always better
And then all the other stuff they put in the box
Video capability memory chip type ….SD is probably the most popular
I just bought a SCAN disk 1 gig SD gold card for under 50.00 US
Sony is still hugging the Beta max tree ie you pay more for the memory stick
And then all the stuff I NEVER use
Settings to make pictures funky, black and white ,pink and orange
Whatever ,…… for crying out loud, I thought that’s what the
photo shop type programs were for
Well I’ve probably over spoke but just wanted to share a few things I’ve
Picked up which is really very common knowledge
But its good to go over them they are the basic elements to capturing images
It’s still just a box with a hole in it. Focus on it rudimentary workings
And go from there
All the Best in your search
Joe

Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 08:48
by speedbird591
If you decide on a Canon, it might be worth a quick look on the Canon Outlet shop on eBay. I've bought a couple of digital compacts from here. It's an official outlet for refurbished Canon cameras, digicams, printers etc. They come fully repackaged as new and with a full one year Canon guarantee. They are all auctioned so you might get a bargain. I've bought two and have been very happy.

Just type in Canon Outlet in the search box to see what's available. I've just done it, but there's only one compact at the moment - usually a lot more. A few DSLRs though.

Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 09:30
by Charlie Bravo
airboatr....

In case you think I was having a pop at your suggestion...... I wasn't.

Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 12:34
by fournier
For your mum, I'd consider something like the Fujifilm A340.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fuji-FinePix-A340 ... dZViewItem

If you are gong to be taking photos at airshows, go for something with a good optcal zoom. The Fujifilm S5500 with its 10x optical zoom is very good, only 4mp resolution but it still produces some stunning shots.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fuji-FinePix-S550 ... dZViewItem

I've had both so can readily recommended them!

Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 12:58
by DaveB
Fournier..

I'd agree with your choice of a Fuji for day-to-day use. They're simple to use, show great colour and are well made. Many moons ago, CB posted some shots taken at Brunters with his Fuji Finepix 2700Z and so impressed was I with the quality, I went and bought one too as did DM (Rick also has one now!). The only downside I can think of is that it's a bit thirsty on batteries (it takes 4 AA's) but I've had mine years and I still use it from time to time. I'm sure Fuji have moved on since then so I expect the quality to be that much better :wink:

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 16:17
by fournier
I agree with your point about battery use Dave. The way around it of course is to get a couple of sets of rechargeable AA's. Something around 2700Mah would be just the ticket!

The other reason I gave Fujifilm my business was that in my experience, the after sales service is excellent. They even replaced a camera that I bought 2nd hand!

Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 16:17
by airboatr
Charlie Bravo wrote:airboatr....

In case you think I was having a pop at your suggestion...... I wasn't.
I promise in my heart mate
I didn't recieve it as such
but thank you the same
I have had at one time (just recently)
about 12.000 US in canon gear (twelve thousand)
and I liked it alot, but my Back injury and the
complexity of the SLR kits jsut got to be to much
besides if I can have a package not much larger then
the palm of my hand ....... well why not
I looked at the cannon and the nikon
and others , they all are similar.
you know it always comes down to this............
read- read -read ,touch as much as you can
get some personal feedback and make a choice,
throw your money down on the counter top
and you take what you get..
Most of the time it all works out ok
and many memories yet to come will be captured
with it.
ATB
Joe
PS with all the running you do, I hope you keep your
fluid in take High!
:drinkers:
cheers

Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 18:11
by AndyMinx
For myself Im looking at this one:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000 ... e&n=560798

Does anyone know if it's any good?

Im not really too concerned about aerial shots of aircraft to be honest.
So general snapping and ground based aircraft are what will be shot the most.

Cheers,

Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 18:28
by airboatr
Looks like a good choice Andy
it really is a hard choice to make
you picked a good reputable brand
last bit of advice
don't seel yourself short in the
focal length dept.
distance is distance
whether your pointing the camera
in the sky or across landscape

Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 18:52
by Charlie Bravo
AndyMinx wrote:For myself Im looking at this one:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000 ... e&n=560798

Does anyone know if it's any good?

Im not really too concerned about aerial shots of aircraft to be honest.
So general snapping and ground based aircraft are what will be shot the most.

Cheers,
Just be aware that it's not a UK spec model, hence the price. Ebuyer are the same. Thats why all the links I posted are slightly more expensive.