Seems like Concorde won't fly again..ever

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TobyVickers wrote:Joe, of the BA ones only Alpha Alpha and Delta Golf were dismantled and of the Air France ones, I think only Fox Bravo, purely because there was no other way of getting them into their new homes because the runways are too short or unserviceable.

'AC flew into Manchester, 'AD flew into New York (and was then lifted on to the barge :crying: ), 'AE flew to Barbados, 'AF flew to Filton and 'AG flew to Seattle, via NY setting a new record for east to west crossing of continental America (or something like that). Dont forget that after teh accident, only 5 BA aircraft and 4 AF aircaft had been modified and were actually in flying condition.
Oh good, it was not as bad as I though. I just did not hear about any of those flights when they were happening.
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AA couldn't fly as it had not had the post crash mods made and had not be overhauled and reactivated after storage.

AB was not done either but that was not going anywhere.

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Hell Joe no. :wink: Of all the guy's on here from your side of the pond, you have never been one to 'We did it better, faster, higher, bigger, cheaper.. or first' brigade :wink:

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Thanks for clearing that up for me Dave.
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DaveB wrote:Now.. I'm waiting for the post to say that the American's actually did it quicker.....

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Well said DB

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Freedom if Information Act!!! Probably doesn't apply here though. :(
Damn BA. Anyway, charities have raised that much before, this may be a bit harder to raide money for though.
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I was thinking about something else here - surely the aircraft to be returned to the skies would have to be BA's flagship, G-BOAC.

I guess that would be more difficult though as she will have more hours on her and I believe she was slightly heavier than one of the later aircraft.
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Bottom line is it wont happen. If it were to happen, flagships or any other non technical or sentimental reasoning would be absolutely bottom of the list. Top priority would be technical condition because the CAA, BA, Airbus or anyone else involved dont want it dropping out of the sky. To get one flying again would be an enormous financial, technical and legal/red tape mountain to climb in some ways, I dont think its worth it. I would love to see a Concorde fly as much as any other enthusiast, more perhaps, but what is required to achieve it is too great.

For hundreds of years man wanted to turn lead into Gold. Finally, with theinvention of particle acelerators (and the fact that Gold has a higher atomic number than lead!) its possible to achieve this at a facility such as CERN. However the cost to do this far outstrips the value of the gold produced... if you see the parallel I am drawing :smile:

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It is probably impossible for the ordinary man in the street to comprehend what's involved.

It would take an enormous amount of money just to get the best back in the air and to keep it airworthy would be prohibitive.

All that if you could persuade the people that grounded it in the first place to support you.

I am sure the decision to ground it was not taken lightly.

The debate will go on for a long time, but grounded it is and grounded it will remain.

Like Toby I would love to see it fly again but the reality is that we have to accept that it won't.

But we do have a good chance to donate to of support any preserved aircraft so that the can become successful museum pieces and not like so many take them for granted until the owner decides he needs the space for something else.


So go see Concorde where ever you can and as you hand over your dosh let the Museum folks know it's Concorde you've come to see.

That's it I'm afraid the best we can do...hang on to and support what's left of Concorde.

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