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Posted: 28 Sep 2005, 23:15
by TobyV
There are some rivets and in the photos I have of construction, you can clearly see a lot of rivets in the nose section and the book describes further rivetting around the "keel" area. The rest of the construction uses stringers redux bonded to the skin. It goes on to say that BAe estimated that by using integrally machined parts and and redux bonding, it uses 120,000
fewer fastners (which I take as meaning rivets!) than would have otherwise been the case
Posted: 28 Sep 2005, 23:20
by Rick Piper
I thought it was just me that had not ever seen rivets on a 146. :-?
Regards
Rick
Posted: 29 Sep 2005, 00:02
by Garry Russell
TobyVickers wrote:Sorry to point this out but the 146 uses redux bonding
So it's glued? :roll:
The Friendship was bonded and I read years ago that that was the first to make extensive use of the system.
A few area were riveted but the main continuous sections were bonded.
Heavy use of rivets went out with the Ark.
Garry
Posted: 29 Sep 2005, 00:27
by TobyV
de Havilland were the pioneers of redux bonding, the first aircraft to extensively use it being the Dove. I'm not sure about the Comet but certainly the Trident and 146 both used it. No idea about the Fokker.
Posted: 29 Sep 2005, 01:31
by Jetset
VEGAS wrote:Looks like something the A-Team put together!!...
I aint going on no plane Hannibal. Stop yo jibba jabba!
Posted: 29 Sep 2005, 08:57
by TobyV
Garry wrote:Heavy use of rivets went out with the Ark
I think you meant to say "Heavy use of rivets went out with the Shack"
Toby
Posted: 29 Sep 2005, 09:22
by andy
TobyVickers wrote:Garry wrote:Heavy use of rivets went out with the Ark
I think you meant to say "Heavy use of rivets went out with the Shack"
Toby
At least those rivets are still flying..............
Posted: 29 Sep 2005, 09:39
by Garry Russell
andy wrote:TobyVickers wrote:Garry wrote:Heavy use of rivets went out with the Ark
I think you meant to say "Heavy use of rivets went out with the Shack"
Toby
At least those rivets are still flying..............
In close formation
Garry
Posted: 29 Sep 2005, 19:57
by Nick
de Havilland were the pioneers of redux bonding, the first aircraft to extensively use it being the Dove. I'm not sure about the Comet but certainly the Trident and 146 both used it. No idea about the Fokker.
The Comet was bonded together. It was the first use of redux on such a large aircraft, and it was done to keep the weight down so the weedy ghost engines could actually lift it in the air!
Failure of the redux glue was what many thought caused the Comet crashes before the fatigue theory was proven.
Nick
Posted: 29 Sep 2005, 20:51
by TobyV
The redux adhesive is called Thiokol IIRC.
