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Re: Capt Sim L1011 TriStar exterior released

Posted: 03 Apr 2013, 18:50
by Garry Russell
Cheers John :)

Now...that's more like it, Landor in midnight and grey.

Show it in all it's depressive "Glory"

Re: Capt Sim L1011 TriStar exterior released

Posted: 03 Apr 2013, 20:43
by speedbird591
J0hn wrote:all aboard... ;)
Don't wait for me, thanks, John :lol:

I had to work on these from 1988-90 to get my promotion to Cabin Service Director. Horrible things - however many shades of grey they come in :lol: The low point of my career was having to work a borrowed Caledonian Airways bucket and spade one as a substitute for a scheduled Athens - Heathrow service. So embarrassing.

These screenies are making me as depressed as Garry :lol:

Ian :)

Re: Capt Sim L1011 TriStar exterior released

Posted: 03 Apr 2013, 20:56
by Garry Russell
Do the folks that love Landor know what colour it was?? :dunno:

Someone on Brit Modeller praised the stylish livery while showing off his model beautifully painted in.....white and dark blue (rather than cold midnight). :doh:

If it had really been like that it would not have been so bad. :worried:

Re: Capt Sim L1011 TriStar exterior released

Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 08:05
by dfarrow
Tristars must be like Marmite , love ‘em or hate ‘em , but not both . Dear old blunderbus , bought by BEA for 320 peeps to Paris or 300 back from Tel Aviv . 25 [ 10 after Ian flew them ] years later ; take off wt upped by 10% [ except dear old AI which had rolled off Leeds runway and across a field ] , 393pax + a dozen babies [ that’s 40 tonnes payload ] , 16 flt’n cabin crew + 1 tonne of spares pack ; ‘n we’d go 6 hours stop for gas ‘n go another 6 hours to a beach . Yes Caledonian was bucket and spade and unscheduled ! Just like Highland Division with sunshine and kilts .
Must be difficult to model with a brilliant wing ; vmo 375 kts , mmo .887 mach . But we did run out of puff with original RB211-22bs , got off the rwy ok ; but above 25000 ' vert speed 400' reducing to 100 fpm above 30000' .
Could slow down to 204 kts clean ! Boeings could not match that , indeed Trident territory but slow speed and lifting capability better. Approach was glider pilot style , descend on app with speedbrakes ½ out . To increase rate of descent push stick forward … nose did not go down! .. brakes came out more . Pull stick back brakes stowed and a/c lifted up with no change of attitude .
Made it difficult to go back to Boeing with pitch and power couple .
Auto flight was needlessly complicated , 2 channels , but 2 sub-channels to each , but autoland a dream in 35kts crosswind ; and flown from an hotel bedroom , tasteful in light blue ‘n not the Boeing brown ! Nice to be welcomed home personally every time , even / especially if it was a posse of engineers clutching spanners and spare parts .
Not even mentioned underfloor galley , lifts , ‘n electric crew seats ! They would be difficult to model .
Oh , and AF did look good in the Aer Lingus green for a few years on sub-let

ATB dave f .

Re: Capt Sim L1011 TriStar exterior released

Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 09:12
by Garry Russell
One bit of L1011 trivia

BA grabbed one at LHR to operate a Jersey to clear fog back ups. Being the only thing bigger than the One-Eleven and Boeing 737 it seemed a good idea at the time. :thumbsup:

Only after it was loaded up did they realise that the steps in Jersey wouldn't fit :doh: so that had to be scrubbed. :$

A short while later the same situation arose and a TriStar sucessfully did the trip carrying a set of about three steps to connect to the fully extended set in Jersey.

The TriStars' visits to Jersey became unnessary when the 757 came on line.