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Re: Try not to Break Anything

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 07:23
by DanKH
Actually Dave, I was on Win7 even before it went out :lol: :lol:

Darren: No, actually I'm fully aware of anything that runs on my computer :) ....and no, there is no automatic defragging running. And there haven't been for ages ...

Defragging after huge installs and uninstalls is a hype ... there, I said it ... prove me wrong :lol: :lol:

I think it was a good idea in them old days when HDD's weren't so fast as they are today, but of course you won't see any companies selling defrag programs telling you that :D

On the other hand, it doesn't hurt anything, so if you want to waste time and ressources that could be used for other things .... ;)

I do hope I haven't insulted anyone :worried: thats was just an opportunity to air one of my obsessions :)

Re: Try not to Break Anything

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 18:33
by ianhind
Dan

Didn't the introduction of NTFS as the default file system help remove the need for defragging? I vaguely remember something about that but :dunno:

Ian

Re: Try not to Break Anything

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 20:04
by TSR2
Alot of what Dan says is correct, however you will (or should) notice improved load times with the odd defrag. this will vary from setup to setup, but if your using HDD's maybe bi anually do a defrag, or after a full rebuild. There is no hard and fast. If your using SDD's, never defrag them ;)

Re: Try not to Break Anything

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 21:27
by DanKH
Ben Watson wrote:Alot of what Dan says is correct...,
Thank God! :worried:

Could you please tell my wife as well... *-) ?

Re: Try not to Break Anything

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 21:42
by DanKH
NTFS (New Technology File System) has the possibility to use bigger blocks than FAT32 (File Allocation Table) and thus the files are not so often broken into smaller pieces and hence in risk of getting fragmented .... but NTFS does not eliminate the fragmentation ....

On the other hand NTFS introduces more overhead in case of small files, in terms of memory use so....

Please be noted that this is only a very brief and overall description of some of the differences, a lot more can be found for those who are interested here:

FAT

NTFS

Re: Try not to Break Anything

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 22:13
by GHD
DanKH wrote:I think it was a good idea in them old days when HDD's weren't so fast as they are today
So inefficiency is dependent on the speed of the disks not on the placement of the data :S

Re: Try not to Break Anything

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 22:26
by DanKH
Well yes and no *-)

I prefer 'in-continuity' instead of 'inefficiency' as the new HDD's are indeed VERY efficient!

... but you won't feel the incontinuity of a fragmented file on a quick disk ....

Re: Try not to Break Anything

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 22:49
by Garry Russell
Does it help if you use in-continuity pads? *-) :-O :$ :doh:

8)

Re: Try not to Break Anything

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 23:36
by DanKH
or incontinence pads perhaps? To avoid leaks... :dunno: *-) :wasntme:

Re: Try not to Break Anything

Posted: 05 Nov 2011, 17:28
by tonymadge
As always companies seize on every opportunity to shaft the buying public and always for profit not because some poor sod is flooded out :rant: