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Re: BEA Flying Jack
Posted: 31 Aug 2011, 15:54
by Garry Russell
I wonder if anyone thinks we're talking about the wings

Re: BEA Flying Jack
Posted: 31 Aug 2011, 18:35
by MALTBY D
This is the one the man in the forum was complaining about. Clearly the wrong colour.
http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/mod ... -1891.html
That's more like BOAC purple!!
He did say that the BEA Aero Classics 953 is ok though. I'm siding with Eric.
http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/mod ... 22941.html
DM
Re: BEA Flying Jack
Posted: 31 Aug 2011, 18:51
by Garry Russell
That bottoms one is OK....it's green

Re: BEA Flying Jack
Posted: 31 Aug 2011, 21:20
by MALTBY D
That's good.
If the blue on the bottom one is more like the correct shade of green, then my eyes are ok.
Seriously whatever the exact shade, the BEA colour is nearly smack in the middle of blue & green.
I wonder if people see either blue or green as the more dominant colour and that stands out more to them.
I do think it photographs slightly more blue than it is though, which I don't understand.
I remember thinking how much green there was in ZK when seen in the flesh. Still greeny blue mind.
DM
Re: BEA Flying Jack
Posted: 31 Aug 2011, 22:08
by Garry Russell
I think your right about perception of colour David
As for pics, I've always maintained it doesn't photograph correctly...same with landor grey always came out much lighter
The BEA green was unstable and about halfway through the painting they were so concerned about how shabby and patchy the aircraft were looking they changed to a new polyurethane paint and started repainting those already done.
Even though it did fade to a matt blue it was never like the Oxford blue that's said to be a match and most unlike many representation of it which the only correct colour on decals I've personally seen was that on the Airfix release in FJ.
As mentioned before when it faded to matt blue it did so with a purple tinge very similar to a paint used on Ford Thames vans (Anglia's) which had a similar tinge
When faded it was also blotchy and at imes in certain light a little chalky.
It certainly was on of those odd colours and the whole idea behind using it was the BEA wanted a distinct image so moved away from the fairly standard cheat line colours then in use...
Nice that the Vanguard model is in about the right colour but then they kick themselves in the nuts with those awful windows that are also the wrong shape.....talk about loud

Re: BEA Flying Jack
Posted: 31 Aug 2011, 22:41
by MALTBY D
Interesting stuff, ta.
Right about the windows too. You don't miss a thing.
Too round and a tad too light.
I can spot errors for the types I've modelled, but I don't see them with any others until it's pointed out to me.
DM
Re: BEA Flying Jack
Posted: 01 Sep 2011, 20:08
by DaveB
Thank goodness I don't have the top one.. I'd have sent it back

None of my AeroClassics look that bad and I have a couple..
953c APET FJ/BACargo hybrid
953c APEK BACargo
951 APEB BEARS
953 APEN FJ
953c APES BEAFJ Cargo
953c APEM DHL
+ 2 VC10's, 2 Tridents, 8 airline bus/coaches and assorted others.. sad I know
ATB
DaveB

Re: BEA Flying Jack
Posted: 01 Sep 2011, 21:17
by MALTBY D
Is that a like a Bakers Dozen, a Bookers Couple?
I assume that top one is version 1 of the model. Looks a bit rough compared to the other. Steer clear of that one then.
I like the 1:400 stuff too.
I've got an Aero Classics Comet 4C. Mexicana as that was the only one I could get hold of that was a correct livery on a 4C.
And Gemini Jets BA VC10, BEA Trident 2 & Dan-Air 1-11 500. No surprises there then.
DM
Re: BEA Flying Jack
Posted: 01 Sep 2011, 21:40
by DaveB
Re: BEA Flying Jack
Posted: 01 Sep 2011, 21:51
by Garry Russell
The top one's not too bad
Apart from being the wrong colour, wrong shape, wrong marking positions and badly finished.it looks just like an IL-18
