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Re: One more nail in the VC10s coffin
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 12:19
by TSR2
They could have at least stuck a proper reg on it.... F- on an RAF aircraft is wrong

Re: One more nail in the VC10s coffin
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 13:56
by Chris558
Of course...it could just be a photoshopped pic..?

Re: One more nail in the VC10s coffin
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 14:26
by DispatchDragon
Chris -- It looks to be one of those F-W type registration that I was under the impression indicated a prototype of preproduction model (rather like British Class B regs).
The question was rhetorical Dave - That was a joke that the TransAer/TMA crews had (that you had to have an A320 type rating (L) and (R) on your license. Having flown two TOTALLY different side sticked aircraft (the A320 sim at NATCO MSP and a Lancair 320) I personally prefer flying left handed - and when Im using a stick rather than the yolk in FS I fly with it on the left - it feels more natural if that makes sense.
leif
Re: One more nail in the VC10s coffin
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 14:45
by Nigel H-J
Odd.. I can fly with a yoke left handed no problem.. not so with a joystick
Could that be because most joysticks are made for right handed people? :think:
Well, I suppose we will see less and less of the VC10 air photos from Tonks, wonder how he will take to a glass cockpit after all these years?
BTW, I presume with the VC10 that there is a crew of 4 on board (if they still have some-one taking up the old Navs position, how many will crew the new ship?
Regards
Nigel.
Re: One more nail in the VC10s coffin
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 15:22
by DaveB
I think this is one of the things under discussion Nigel. Poor Tonks has been used to a FD crew of 4 since he was a boy in short trousers and the Scarebus only caters for 2 AFAIK. Can't see there being any room for a FE but perhaps a Nav could be hidden in some dark corner :think:
ATB
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Re: One more nail in the VC10s coffin
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 15:24
by Garry Russell
Perhaps a Chef and a Masseur could make up the numbers
Garry
Re: One more nail in the VC10s coffin
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 15:38
by Nigel H-J
Poor ol' Tonks, imagine only a crew of 2, does that now mean he will have to get up and see to his own catering needs instead of sending the FE down to the galley? :roll:
But then again, if he gets really, really desperate, there's always..........Ian?
Nigel.
Re: One more nail in the VC10s coffin
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 17:25
by DaveB
There's always the 'ding dong' call button on the overhead or the more traditional.. Oi, where's my dinner steward??
Of course, there are more serious operational implications to having fewer crew. The FE, as well as doing what FE's do also monitors the AAR via camera. I'm sure they'll get the right balance eventually.. plenty of time for that ;-)
ATB
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Re: One more nail in the VC10s coffin
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 21:21
by DaveB
I remember you saying before that left or right handed wasn't a problem but with a joystick :o . There's something just not right about flying left handed with a joystick
Gadzooks Andy.. no FE to go and do all the checks while you're in the flight briefing :o No heaters on or warm slippers ready to wear

Gonna be mighty odd there only being 2 on the FD for normal ops though I guess there are 'spare' seats which will be filled for many years to come ;-) Be prepared to hear often the phrase.. 'WTF's it doing now'
Much as I love the VC10.. we ALL do here.. this is a good move. It's about time you had something new and hopefully, more reliable to work with ;-) I don't suppose it's possible to retro fit em with Conways is it??
ATB
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Re: One more nail in the VC10s coffin
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 21:33
by Garry Russell
Yep..we love the Ten :kissu: but at least the country is going for a brand new type, state of the art and with years of support to come.
It is remarkable how long the Tens have been kept going but this is an important part of the nations security and we all say that the guys up front in the forces have not got the best equipment for the job.
This sort of thing is a step in the right direction
Over 40 years service which if that had been the case when the Ten entered service, would have meant it replacing a type in service since the latter part of the 1920's
Garry