US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
Moderators: Guru's, The Ministry
US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/11/n ... s-111311w/
Does any one know how true this is?
Kind regards
John
Does any one know how true this is?
Kind regards
John
never give up, never surrender


- DaveB
- The Ministry
- Posts: 30457
- Joined: 17 Jun 2004, 20:46
- Location: Pelsall, West Mids, UK
- Contact:
Re: US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
Interesting article John
ATB
DaveB
ATB
DaveB


Old sailors never die.. they just smell that way!
- basys
- VC10

- Posts: 524
- Joined: 06 Apr 2006, 12:28
- Location: EGNL, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, UK
- Contact:
Re: US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
We paid ~$30 million each new.
US gets 74 off for $50 million total.
Someone's taking the........
Elsewhere -
"The Ministry of Defence has scrapped nearly £1 billion of spare equipment.
The Royal Navy alone disposed of £570 million worth of material,
Peter Luff, the defence minister, has disclosed in response to a written parliamentary question. "
US gets 74 off for $50 million total.
Someone's taking the........
Elsewhere -
"The Ministry of Defence has scrapped nearly £1 billion of spare equipment.
The Royal Navy alone disposed of £570 million worth of material,
Peter Luff, the defence minister, has disclosed in response to a written parliamentary question. "

I've never felt so frustrated....... died so frequently/spectacularly/or needlessly....... yet had so much fun, in a long time.
Flight's Landing Challenges - Earn your wings !
Re: US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
They aren't new though. Besides what's better, $50million in your pocket or 74 unused Harriers taking up space, storage and maintenance costs and slowly depreciating in value. If you want to know how much a single Harrier costs contact Everett Aero, they have an FA2 (complete & ready to fly) and a GR7 along with spares for sale. I can tell you one thing, it won't be $30million. 
You can be sure that there's also a "you scratch our backs, we'll scratch yours" trade deal behind this. The Harriers being sold are probably just the public face. If someone wanted them sell them, the other stuff scrapped no one probably wanted.
I'd rather they sell them and put the money towards the long overdue Red Arrows upgrade to Hawk T2s.
You can be sure that there's also a "you scratch our backs, we'll scratch yours" trade deal behind this. The Harriers being sold are probably just the public face. If someone wanted them sell them, the other stuff scrapped no one probably wanted.
I'd rather they sell them and put the money towards the long overdue Red Arrows upgrade to Hawk T2s.
Re: US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
I'm rather pleased that these aeroplanes will be given a new lease of life with the US Navy/ Marines. Better then them being cut up and scrapped.
Error 482: Somebody shot the server with a 12 gauge.
- DaveB
- The Ministry
- Posts: 30457
- Joined: 17 Jun 2004, 20:46
- Location: Pelsall, West Mids, UK
- Contact:
Re: US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
Yes.. or going somewhere else to be used for counter insurgency
I'm sure what Darren said is right too.. there's a 'hidden' bit to the deal us mortals aren't privy to
ATB
DaveB
ATB
DaveB


Old sailors never die.. they just smell that way!
- Chris Trott
- Vintage Pair

- Posts: 2592
- Joined: 26 Jun 2004, 05:16
- Location: Houston, Texas, USA
- Contact:
Re: US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
It may be part of a bigger deal to compensate the UK for the F-35 delays. It wouldn't be the first time that an FMS delivery delay was paid for by buying "unused" aircraft. That the USMC may get use out of them is simply a bonus.
As for confirmation, I've seen the story published in 3 aviation industry magazines that don't make a habit of reporting sales that they can't confirm through official channels, so it's probably legit. Not to mention that while these airplanes are being bought for what is essentially scrap value, much of their avionics will need to be changed anyway to match up with the other US aircraft as much as possible, so it'll be costing the USMC quite a bit more to put them in the fleet, all the UK's sold them are airframes and maybe the engines.
As for confirmation, I've seen the story published in 3 aviation industry magazines that don't make a habit of reporting sales that they can't confirm through official channels, so it's probably legit. Not to mention that while these airplanes are being bought for what is essentially scrap value, much of their avionics will need to be changed anyway to match up with the other US aircraft as much as possible, so it'll be costing the USMC quite a bit more to put them in the fleet, all the UK's sold them are airframes and maybe the engines.
Re: US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
According to the article the $50m is for spare parts only with the Harriers subject to a separate deal. TBH that's not bad for something that has no value if not used to maintain our own fleet.
Regards,
Chris
Regards,
Chris
Re: US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
ChrisHunt wrote:According to the article the $50m is for spare parts only with the Harriers subject to a separate deal.
Come on, did you expect us to read it as well.
- Garry Russell
- The Ministry
- Posts: 27180
- Joined: 29 Jan 2005, 00:53
- Location: On the other side of the wall
Re: US Marines buying our Harriers at a knock-down price?
Maybe they shuld hold off a bit and see if they come up on Ebay

Garry

"In the world of virtual reality things are not always what they seem."

"In the world of virtual reality things are not always what they seem."




