simshed being ripped off on ebay

ukmil · Post by **ukmil** » 24 Mar 2007, 14:48

until now, i have not mentioned it on here, excepet to one member who has been helping me with this, but i am currently in a legal battle with FSPLANET over the same issue

basically, ALL UKMIL items are packaged with the usual disclaimer, where it says thse must not be sold, etc etc, and uploaded to websites without UKMIL permission. It also says, due to their non compliance, THIS ITEM MUST NOT BE UPLOADED TO FSPLANET.com

now, i receved an email, from FSPLANET, telling me to remove that statement or else!!

so after a few emails back and forth, and threats of legal action from both sides, they are still hosting our files, and have now said, they are going to download EVERY UKMIL file, and upload it to their server!

ukmil · Post by **ukmil** » 24 Mar 2007, 14:49

that Seaking on here, belongs to one of my modelling team

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Helicopter-Pilot- ... dZViewItem

ukmil · Post by **ukmil** » 24 Mar 2007, 14:54

now, does this look familiar? not the product, but the page background, and the CDROM label. either same seller, or same supplier

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Avro-Vulcan-sim-f ... dZViewItem

ukmil · Post by **ukmil** » 24 Mar 2007, 14:58

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/40-FLIGHT-SIM-200 ... dZViewItem

Post by **Garry Russell** » 24 Mar 2007, 15:00

FS Planet are named specifically in some files as do not upload to due to their attitude.

It is a simple copyright issue and I don't see why they can't accept that.

If you made it it is yours to put whatever restriction on it you choose to.

What part of that can people not understand.?

Garry

ukmil · Post by **ukmil** » 24 Mar 2007, 15:33

ok, i am going to make public, the emails i have recieved

you will see their attitude

ukmil · Post by **ukmil** » 24 Mar 2007, 15:36

here is the initial contact email from FSPLANET

Hello,

Some people has told us that your website or repaints are posting defamatiory comments against our website (Not to be uploaded to FSPLANET.COM).

Sirs, we and some other webmasters have been fighting during the last 2 years against this kind of comments and make differences between sites, like who can and/or who cannot.

There's a very nice thing called EMAIL. instead to post these kind of messages against the community to create enemies or differences, just EMAIL US and say us... please do not post our repaints (We don't care the reason why)... just simply CONTACT WITH US and LET US KNOW by email.... and not by posting NOT FOR... xxxx

We do not upload files from anywhere, but we just upload only the files that are being uploaded in our servers. We don't know if these files are being uploaded by the authors, by repainters or by anybody else. We don't know from where the files are coming from. We had terrible problems in the past due some bad people were uploading files to our servers, and then we were accused as stealers. That's COMPLETELY FALSE.

I ask you to remove all these comments about (not for fsplanet.com) from all your files. We will be sure that not to upload any more files from UKMIL if any is uploaded to our servers, but at the same time I ask you the right to remove these comments against our website.

Let me know as soon as possible. Thank you!

FSPLANET.COM
Cristian Viver
[email protected]

ukmil · Post by **ukmil** » 24 Mar 2007, 15:37

I am in charge since 10 months ago, and as I said you, we are a team of 8 people here, working with the website, servers, sponsors, our scenery designers...etc.

I don't know absolutely nothing about the problems you had withthe previous person who was in charge here in Fsplanet.com (probably Ferdy Serena).

If you wast that I personally find all the files from UKMIL and I remove all of them from our servers, I'll do it so. As I said you, I don't care the reason you don't want that your files be published at our website, in fact we don't have nothing to lose, as we will have the same amount of visitors, and many people will don't know about your files or your website because they will simply will do not download from our website. But that's not the matter now.

As I said you, I can lookfor all your files and delete them from our servers. At the same time I'll inform to all my team (tomorrow) to be carefull about all files signed with UKMIL. If any is uploaded, simply we will remove it before to announce it.

At the same time I ask you to edit all your readme's and remove NOT FOR FSPLANET.COM or whatever about our website and reupload where you have uploaded these files.

If you agree with it, perfect. If you don't, then we will be forced to call our solicitors Brethertons.co.uk to resolve this situation (as they did with some other people in the past). As you can see, at this moment, you're the ONLY one posting messages like NOT FOR.... xxxx

Let me know and thank you.

ukmil · Post by **ukmil** » 24 Mar 2007, 15:40

Hi again,

Because I really don't have time to spend more time on this matter, I'm not going to discuss with you, but I want you know that you're confused about the meaning of freeware and file distribution. I suggest you to inform about all this.

Well, as I said you I'll meet all the team tomorrow and I'll tell them about UKMIL files, and not to upload them in case that any UKMIL file is uploaded to our servers.

Since you don't want to remove those comments in all previous files, we will not remove all previous files from our servers.

I guarantee that I'll watch personally for your files, not only to not to be hosted in our website from now, but also to be sure that you don't write these kind of comments in the future.

Regards!

FSPLANET.COM
Cristian Viver
[email protected]

ukmil · Post by **ukmil** » 24 Mar 2007, 15:40

Sir,

We want to know if you're going to continue typing NOT FOR FSPLANET.COM in your readmes. We consider this as a threat and defamation against our website, as it's very clear that this is a negative comment about any website, in this case, our website.

Let us know.

FSPLANET.COM
Cristian Viver
[email protected]